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  1. Learningtolivewithhsv

    Advice for GHSV-1

    So I made it to month four without a visible sign of an outbreak. I had a really bad outbreak in the ending of April and was diagnosed with GHSV1. My initial outbreak took about a month to heal and left scars (a lighter pigmentation from my overall complexion on my genitals). Sadly I have been ridiculously paranoid to the point I have taken two 7 day treatments of Valtrex. More than likely it was probably just yeast infections (I get them way more than I should, even before getting hsv). I also take lysine twice a day and three times a day when I feel like an outbreak is coming on. I’ve been applying tea tree to my genitals everyday since getting diagnosed to dry out any potential outbreaks that are present that I possibly mistake for an ingrown hair. When does the worrying stop? How often have anyone on this forum with GHSV1 get outbreaks? What’s are some good tips and tricks?
  2. Looks like there is now a site that's in English selling Amenalief (amenamevir) for the rock bottom price of about $95.43 USD a day. ($668 shipped for 14 x 200mg pills at 400mg/ daily dose). Amenalief is one of the helicase primase-inhibitor class of drugs that has been around for the better part of a couple decades, but has just recently made it to market in Japan. Pritelivir is also a member of this drug class. For those that have less than stellar results from current antivirals, helicase primase-inhibitors are likely to offer a relatively impressive improvement in quality of life assuming you can afford the ongoign cost of using them suppressively (needless to say they are NOT a cure). As a side note, the FDA blocked further testing of Pritelivir back in 2013, so in case you're wondering why you cannot buy this class of drugs as a consumer at your local pharmacy for a more reasonable price using your prescription drug plan, you owe a large thanks to the FDA for your being forced to weight your physical and emotional HSV-related damages against the cost of this treatment. If anyone out there is independently wealthy, willing to order an antiviral drug from a Japanese company, and would be so kind as to report back with their experiences taking Amenalief suppressively, I'm sure many of your fellow sufferers would be extremely thankful! https://www.mimaki-family-japan.com/item/detail?item_prefix=TF&item_code=705711&item_branch=001
  3. Lab11

    Long term Antiviral Use

    Hi, I'm wondering if anyone on here has been on antivirals for many years like me. I have been on and off for 20 years. Most recently on for about 3. I am starting to worry about damage to my kidneys. My doctor says all my tests are fine and has no concern, but I am going to try to go off for a while. Anyone on here have the same experience? I have had hsv for 25 years and am 47 years old. I am so freaked out by both the possibility of damaging my organs and of going off and getting constant outbreaks. Could use someone in my same situation to talk to. Thank you!
  4. If you’ve followed this ASP2151 thread, you may know that I’ve been taking amenamevir (Amenalief) for about two months. In these two months, I have had absolutely no symptoms and no side effects to speak of. I’m ordering blood work soon to confirm that there are no major changes in important biomarkers (kidney, liver, heart, etc.) but I haven’t experienced any side effects that I could observe myself (headaches, diarrhea, insomnia, mood changes etc.) However, there is no data about the effectiveness of valacyclovir + amenamevir on reducing HSV recurrences. Two months of being on this combination is not enough to tell how well it works. As a community, what we need is a functional cure. There’s a lot of excitement surrounding pritelivir in this regard. Pritelivir, like amenamevir, is a new drug inhibits the HSV helicase-primase complex. This is a different target than valacyclovir, which is why combining the two has major potential to be a functional cure. If you’ve read Josh Bloom’s article on the possibility of using pritelivir and valacyclovir together as a sort of HIV-like cocktail, then you’ve probably realized this combo is the only way in the foreseeable future that we will have a functional cure. Here’s the reality of the situation. There will not be a vaccine in the foreseeable future (barring a miracle that allows GEN-003 to continue. I wouldn’t count on that). There will not be a CRISPR treatment in the foreseeable future. The only HSV drug that is going through clinical trials (past pre-clinical) is pritelivir. That means that aside from amenamevir and pritelivir, there will not be any new drugs on the market for at least ten years. You are not getting much help from the pharmaceutical companies. It’s the truth. Many people here are already aware of this. Look at the HSV pipeline. Other than the helicase-primase inhibitors, there is little to no progress being made, and the failure rate is incredibly high. If you want, you can wait ten years hoping that the pharmaceutical companies come out with something. The only alternative is to conduct our own trials and gather some data. There are plenty of drugs/supplements with studies that have some evidence to support their use in preventing HSV recurrences, but there’s not much consensus on whether they actually improve anything. A lot of them have been tested in animals, but not in humans for the purpose of reducing HSV recurrences. Others have been tested in early-stage trials with very small sample sizes and don’t achieve statistical significance, even if the results are promising: L-Glutamine Propranolol Aspirin & other COX-2 inhibitors Another link Lithium Lactoferrin and plenty more. Some people have also speculated that diet changes (ketogenic diet, intermittent fasting, etc.) also lead to dramatic improvement in symptoms. There is plenty of reason to be skeptical about these claims, especially when they only come from a small number of people. The sample size simply isn’t large enough. And, of course, there’s a new drug that we know to be a strong inhibitor of HSV replication: amenamevir. Just as famciclovir has the same effect on HSV as valacyclovir, amenamevir has the same effect on HSV as pritelivir. And, as some of you know, amenamevir is approved in Japan and can be purchased online. In many cases, valacyclovir by itself is not enough to stop all symptoms/recurrences. Additionally, valacyclovir doesn’t reduce shedding as much as it should. But research has found a strong correlation between number of recurrences and shedding. If we get recurrences down to zero, chances are that shedding is close to zero. At the very least, it means with very high probability that shedding has been significantly reduced. Clearly, to achieve a functional cure, valacyclovir is not enough. But when combined it with other drugs/supplements/diets, it could achieve a functional cure or at least eliminate all outbreaks (which all but guarantees a very low level of shedding). Hypothetically, valacyclovir might reduce the average number of outbreaks per year from 3 to 1. Taking amenamevir in combination with valacyclovir might reduce that number to .5. Taking glutamine with amenamevir and valacyclovir might reduce that number to .2 (this is just a hypothetical example). Many of these combos may have a synergistic effect, meaning that using both drugs together would have a stronger effect than the effects of each individual drug combined. And how will we actually figure this out? By doing our own clinical trial. We need a significant amount of participants. A trial will have at least sixty participants (more is better, but sixty is doable) for a three month period. I’ve created to gather some basic information about people (nothing personal or potentially identifying. Just things like age, time of diagnosis, frequency of outbreaks in the past year, whether or not they currently take medication. This data will help group the study participants properly) and a spreadsheet for a trial participant to record when they get an outbreak and to briefly describe the symptoms. The group will be split in half, with thirty participants taking only valacyclovir and the other half taking valacyclovir along with whatever we want to study in combination with valacyclovir. Other standard study procedures such as randomization of the groups will be incorporated into the trial. All the participants have to do is take the pills and record any outbreaks they have, briefly describe the symptoms, and write down when they are fully healed from the outbreak. At the end of the trial, we will have three months of data for sixty participants. That’s ninety months, or seven and a half years of data, in each group. If the valacyclovir group had a total of ten outbreaks, then the average number of recurrences per year would be about 1.3. If the combo group had a total of five outbreaks, then the average number of recurrences would be about .7. Finally, we test to see if the combo led to a statistically significant reduction in outbreaks compared to the valacyclovir only group. The larger the study group, the more statistically significant the findings will be, which is why a large number of participants is crucial. Finally, we finalize the trial by performing any other important data analysis. For example, we could see if there is any correlation between age and efficacy of the treatment. We generate graphs and charts and write a brief “paper” presenting the findings. The only one of these trials that would actually “cost” a lot of money would be an amenamevir trial (amenamevir, although available, is pretty expensive). However, if enough people are willing to participate in one, we could get data on what looks to be the most effective treatment that is currently available. A trial to assess the effect of any other drug, supplement, or diet would practically cost nothing. Aspirin, glutamine, lactoferrin, and propranolol are widely available and inexpensive, as are many of the other possible treatments, and these trials assume that participants are already taking valacyclovir whether it is covered by their insurance or not. And these trials do not require a major time commitment. The participant will have to verify at the beginning of the trial that they have the study drugs/supplements in their possession (just send a picture and blur out any personal info if there’s a prescription bottle). They take one or two pills a day and record any recurrences. In trials with potential side effects (e.g. lithium), the participant records any side effects. At the end of the study, the participant sends the spreadsheet over. That’s it. These studies and data may not be as high quality as that of many clinical trials, but they are certainly useful. By obtaining this data, we give ourselves the ability to treat this disease better than ever before. Instead of shooting fish in a barrel and hoping some supplement works because one person on the internet said it did or because a supplement had an effect in an animal study, you’ll be able to rely on real data from humans. Not only that, but that data will be on a combination of valacyclovir and whatever else is being taken, which there are very few if any human studies on. TL;DR: Doing crowdsourced trials on different combinations of valacyclovir and other compounds, we can see which compounds are effective for improving HSV. You can participate, and it is minimally time-consuming and costs next to nothing (unless you want to do an amenamevir trial). Participating will help us gather data to improve our conditions dramatically. If you’re interested in participating, please fill out this form: https://goo.gl/forms/Q50PKY8I11tVMsLh2 I am not interested in anyone’s personal data. These studies are to remain anonymous and I will never ask for or attempt to collect any personal data. The only reason I ask for age in the form is because is a potential variable to account for in data analysis. You do not need to provide your age if you don't want to. All communications should be done through this website’s messaging system or using an email that does not link to your identity. You can reach me at honeycombstudy at gmail.com or message me on this site. Any questions and/or skepticism are more than welcome. Finally, if anyone would like to contribute to this project please contact me! Let’s start taking action.
  5. Since May I have been taking Valtrex. At first it was 500mg once a day then it increased to 1000mg once a day in June after frequent outbreaks persisted. I've had a total of 9 outbreaks since May and was diagnosed with hsv2 in March of this year. The past three weeks I've had severe dizziness, especially when lying down and getting up in the mornings. Today my doctor suggested taking acyclovir 400mg twice a day. Has anyone switched from acyclovir to valtrex and experienced better results/less breakouts?
  6. Scenario, I had a sexual encounter with a person in early January, I was afraid of any STD did two weeks after i got a full panel test. All results, except HSV1 were negative (I've had HSV1 for a long time). I got tested again (independent anonymous lab) 5 weeks 4 days post exposure and this time the IGG results forHSV2 cane back as 1.03. Scared, the next week I went to my doctor AND to an anonymous lab (just for comparison). My Dr results were IGG 1.08 and other lab was 1.06. My doc said positive and I stated daily valtrex. Now, 12 weeks and 2 days after exposure, my HSV2 IGG is at .74. I've read a lot of conflicting information about this scenario... valtrex does affect blood work, valtrex doesn't affect bloodwork.. I've never had a "typical" outbreak, if at all. My first one, if that's even what it was, started with a folliculitis type rash in my pubic area, itchy scrotum, an increased urge to urinate, and an itchy feeling inside my urethra BUT NO TYPICAL LESIONS, like all the Dr's say will happen. I had a second possible ob, with the exact same symptoms a month later BUT NO LESIONS. It was just after clearing that I went to the doc. So my question is..... can valtrex LOWER an IGG score that much? I've read that Terri Warren (although I couldn't find the direct post) said that it can delay seroconversion BUT can it change the numbers so dramatically? I'm scared to stop the valtrex because of my situation, im married and had an affair with the other woman. My wife knows, everything, and we are working through things BUT I must need piece of mind.
  7. So 4 weeks ago I tested positive for HSV 2. igg levels 1.36 took test about 1 maybe 2 days after my risky exposure which I suspect is where I contracted it I started taking Valtrex. Anyways I was taking 500 mg of Valtrex since once a day. Also taking an assortment of l-lysine ginger root, oregano oil topical and pill vitamin c list goes on. I have always eaten very clean but for that month I really tried to fast primarily on vegetables and fruits. I also decided to work out a lot of cold showers etc.. So one month goes by I get tested Igg comes back igg .92 HSV2 that's a low positive right? would the Valtrex have made it go down to .92? Then they do a retrace test which I want to find out some more details on pretty sure that means they just run the blood through again and it came back negative this time I think its an igg negative. So yeah I'm obviously very glad, this whole situation has made me change my life and it wasn't easy still isn't. I am thankful for that. The doctor says she wants to run some more test again but said I should still be considered positive. Also could have been exposed to this a few months ago as well just was thinking it was that time because of the burning urination. I got tested one day later after that exposure within 24 hours. would igg even come back 1.36 if it was from then? Also if I have tested positive twice both being very low 1.36 and.92 should I get a WB. Thanks for reading excited to hear some feedback. I will get more testing done next week should know more then and share
  8. 1 st of all I want to say I wear condoms, EVERYTIME, but sometimes they do break... Would it be ok to take valtrex every time I drink and might have sex with a new woman? Maybe take 1000 mg or so, and discontinue the next day? I have no side effect with Valtrex (herpes retro viral drug), and it stops outbreaks 100%. My fear is that taking Valtrex intermitently for only 24 hour regiments might make herpes stronger, possibly resistant to Valtrex?
  9. yupitsherpes

    Why are there no commercials?

    One would think that a drug with virtually no side effects, and a majority of ppl unknowingly carrying an sti would get some air time. I don't understand. The stigma and the ignorance is frustrating and I'm tired of carrying around a 'dirty little secret'!
  10. Hi all, I have hsv2 and am wondering if Valtrex could trigger outbreaks. I realize this question sounds absurd, but bear with me. I have never used Valtrex before about 2 weeks ago when I started taking 1000mg daily for suppressive therapy (I have had hsv2 for 6 months and had 2 outbreaks so far, so I figured suppressive therapy wouldn’t be a bad idea). A few days after I started daily Valtrex therapy, I got an outbreak. Is it possible that by some mechanism Valtrex could trigger an outbreak? I realize there is no scientific data to back this up, but I am wondering if anyone has experienced something similar. Thanks
  11. Hi All, I was diagnosed with HSV-2 Herpes 8 months ago and it's been a roller coaster ride. I've learned to accept it, and have been trying to maintain a positive outlook on my situation and life. However, I constantly having reoccurring outbreaks. I'm talking about every week. Once an outbreak clears up, another follows shortly after. For the most part they are mild, but I can definitely see sores and bumps in the same areas, and automatically know it's another outbreak. I am currently talking Valtrex daily. I also take Vitamin C, Echinacea, Lysine, and Garlic pills daily. I excercise 3-4 times a week, and eat healthy for the most part. Although I have difficultly sleeping, I do get at least 7-8 hours of sleep a night. I've tried meditation, yoga...everything and I still get them CONSTANTLY. I feel as if my sex life is non existent because of this fear I carry that I will infect someone. Can someone shed some insight or light on what can be possibly causing these never ending outbreaks based on experiences? Trying to stay positive and live a normal life but it's hard!
  12. Link to nice description of the 3 main antiviral drugs and chart below. http://www.emedexpert.com/compare/herpes-antivirals.shtml
  13. I’ve been diagnosed since a year and 4 months with Herpes type 2, I haven’t had any outbreak since my intial one. I have been testing my IGG level every three months and it’s always a low positive (sometimes it’s slightly higher when I’m stressed out). Which technically means that the virus is not that active in my body. Anyway everytime I would suspect a sexual activity with someone, I’d take valtrex before days. This guy gave me oral sex, what’s his chances of contacting herpes?
  14. Hi guys, I am newly diagnosed being exposed to genital herpes late August 2017. Beginning of Sep I found blisters on my scrotum and some bumps and red colors on my penis glans that were visible when erect. IGM was positive of both HSV 1 and 2 but IGG was negative. Although the blisters cleared up, I still sometimes see different bumps and discolorations on the penis depending on the time of day and mood. I took an average of 500mg of valtrex everyday for 2 months and then stopped for a few days before I took the 3 month IGG test which showed negative again. I am going to take the test again at the 6 month mark but do you think the Valtrex is to blame? All other STDs were negative as well. Please let me know! I don't like the rollercoaster of emotions but I am almost certain I have herpes from the painful first outbreak. My genital area was burning and itching for 2.5 weeks!
  15. Beached4life

    High dose of Valtrex not working?

    I was diagnosed with HSV2 two years ago now. I take 1 g a day for suppression. But the biggest issue is that I still get outbreaks once every couple of months as well as chronic bacterial vaginal infections. Does anybody else have issues with keeping this virus at Bay?
  16. GingerMiss

    Valtrex side effect questions

    If anyone hadn't seen my last post I was recently diagnosed with HSV-2. I'm on my last day of Valtrex and I'm curious if anyone else has experienced symptoms of a UTI when taking Valtrex? The first few days I found it harder To pee, and it was a tea color instead of normal...today it feels like I have a UTI, so I've loaded up on cranberry supplements but I'm wondering if that's the valtrex or the virus? I had heard the virus can affect the urethra as well, but my outbreaks seem to only occur along my panty line on the left side, and not on my actual genitals so I thought it was worth asking if it's related to one or the other. Any insight is appreciated!
  17. Evictorious

    Just diagnosed and struggling

    I was just diagnosed this week. I am still wrapping my head around all of this. A week ago I just thought I had a yeast infection, multiple trips to the Dr, tons of swabs and test and now it's confirmed. My bloodwork IGG test showed positive hsv1 my swab test showed positive for hsv2. I do not know how I got this and that is so maddening to me. I was married for 15 years, and the last year got divorced, I have had mulitple sexual partners since then. The majority of the time I used protection. I met an amazing man that I have been dating for 4 months and he developed symptoms the same day I did. He has not seen a Dr and has not had very many sexual partners in the last year. Since the Hsv 2 did not show up in my blood work doesn't that limit the time since my own exposure? I feel so bad about this on top dealing with the dynamics and responsibilities I already have as a single mom. I really miss being able to have sex and I dont know if I will ever be able look at it the same and be as carefree as I was before this diagnosis. I am really struggling with this. I have done tons of research but still have so many questions moving forward. My doctor was not very helpful, he gave me a RX for Valtrex and sent me out the door. Here are a few of my questions: Isn't Valtrex most effective taken immediately after a outbreak? I am on day 12 of symptoms and I am finally healing should I even bother taking it? Is there something better/different then Valtrex I should take? Will I need to be on meds for the rest of my life? Has anyone had any success with natural treatments? I am a vegan and I really dont like taking meds. Since my bloodwork didnt show hsv2 dosent that meant I have been exposed to it in the last 6 months? Do I need to contact all my previous partners and tell them? even the ones I know I had safe sex with? I am worried about having a normal sex life again. Any tips? Please don't tell me to talk to my doctor. He frustrated me and was completely unable to answer my questions. Thank you for taking the time to read this!
  18. I contracted GHSV1 from an ex over a year ago. I haven't had an outbreak since the first one. My doctor told me the first year is usually the worst & prescribed me Valtrex 500mg, which I take, but not consistently everyday...I have missed at least a week. Especially since I do not have outbreaks, or have sex I just choose not to take it every day. So here is my problem, and I feel really terrible. I've been dating this guy who works in the medical field...we had a discussion about herpes one day, and he said it wasn't a big deal to him. That would've been the perfect opportunity to tell him, but I was scared. So fast forward I spent the night at his place...one thing lead to another we ended up having sex. He got up to grab a condom, but I didn't find out until after he was done that he decided not to put the condom on. Then afterwards he says ", You better be good, because I just got tested and everything was negative." I just laughed & agreed like a complete selfish idiot. It's true he doesn't have anything, minus herpes (he's unaware) because his doctors have never tested him for it. So its been on my mind ever since, and I don't know how to tell him I have HSV1. I'm such an idiot..I should know better. I thought he put the condom on, and that just makes everything much worse.
  19. Phoenixx

    Valacyclovir in Germany?

    Does anyone know of a doctor in Germany (preferebly Berlin) who would prescribe Valacyclovir? The dermatologists I went to all refused because they said it was too expensive and they were afraid of getting in trouble with the health insurances. I need it because Acyclovir is giving me diarrhea.
  20. Sandraberry

    To take or not to take.

    Hi! So I started seeing this guy and I told him I have herpes. He said ok it's not a big deal and from his understanding it's usually nothing huge to worry about. He said he has friends who are in relationships where one person has it and the other doesn't. Well I've not had sex since I was diagnosed in march. I also have not had another outbreak since then. I know a lot of people take medication daily to help stop transmission. Is it really beneficial? If condoms are in use, I don't have frequent outbreaks, and it's not happening during an outbreak? I'm really new to this and I just need help.
  21. Almostcertain

    Help with Neuralgia and Valtrex

    I think I was exposed 7 weeks ago to the virus, and even though I have not been diagnosed yet, I am sure I have one of the two types of Genital Herpes. I My original post is this one: ( I went on the 19th to read the second set of results. The sample was taken on the 12th (4 weeks after exposure). The test they performed was once again the IgM test, and came back negative. But as many of you have read, that test is unreliable and an IgG test is the one that should be perfomed at 12-16 weeks after exposure. So, I have to wait until that time to get that lab work done. The female in question showed me her IgG Herpes select for HSV1/HSV2 and they came back negative, and states that she has not had any symptoms. That left me a little perplexed with what exactly is going on. Did she contract it closely before my encounter with her, passed it on to me, but has not developed antibodies for it yet? I have started to take daily suppressive therapy with Valtrex 1g, twice a day, because I don't want to have an actual OB, nor the incredible pain I endured during the first week after exposure.(I did react positively to Valtrex, symptms subsided considerably during the inital course treatment) My biggest concerns are that I live every second of my days with what seems to be prodrome symptoms, my genitals are constantly burning/ tingling. My thighs sometimes burn as well. I developed what I would call is nerve pain along my left leg (from upper thighs to ankles) and my genitalia as well. I started to take gabapentin 300mg 2x a day for the nerve pain but that has had a very minimal effect on the neuralgia. I also started to take Lysine and B12 Vitamins daily. I was reading thru this post by @Seeker1960: http://herpeslife.com/herpes-forum/discussion/7680/how-do-i-manage-hsv1-related-neuropathy, and saw that some people switched from Valtrex to acyclovir. Do i need to switch to acyclovir for the constant burning to cease? Has any of you had these kind of symptoms from genital herpes? If so, did they ever subside? If so, when? If any of you have expierienced them, how have you treated this symptoms ? Again, any input is appreciated.
  22. Greenteacoffee

    Atypical presentation

    Hello! I am newly diagnosed with hsv1 and 2 from a swab. I got these from a new partner who did not know he had them, and has been supportive overall. We did use a condom. I hadn't had a partner for a few years prior to this. About a week after our night, I started to have flu like symptoms and vaginal pain but no blisters. I figured it was either a bladder infection or yeast infection or both. I finally went into my family doctor who said it could be herpes based solely on my symptoms and a new partner, but also noted she only saw redness and no sores. Sure enough, she was right. Smart lady. Needless to say, like many of you, I had and I am having a very hard time with this. Lots of anxiety I didn't even know I could muster up. It may be just a skin condition but when it shows up on your lady parts as an atypical presentation, it's life altering. But now I have questions! My doc put me on Valtrex 500mg twice daily for 7 days. I did this, and hated the med. I had some not so pleasant side effects. I also started lysine 3 times a day and red marine algae 2 times a day. My main thing though is that I always had burning, itching, general pain in my vagina, redness, pain around my rectum, and slight swelling but no blisters... Question 1: I am so confused if this has happened to others, and does it ever stop? Also, these symptoms never stopped so a few days after I finished the course, I started Valtrex again for 7 days because I'm scared it's either prodromal symptoms or that my initial outbreak never cleared. Question 2: Should I have ever stopped taking the med even though I still felt symptoms? Big question I have though is my sex life. Can my hsv partner and I have sex without concern that it will pass back and forth if one of us happens to be shedding the virus unknowingly? Obviously if one of us has sores we wouldn't try, and we'd always use condoms. It's been so great to have a forum of so many thousands of others who are in the same boat. I'm hoping for a vaccine! I'd drain my savings for it!
  23. I've seen some people say things like "I pop an antiviral before I get a bikini wax". Does taking an anti viral before a potentially OB triggering activity work? It's not something you have to take every day and build up in your system to work? I was just diagnosed and I'm having my first outbreak. They gave me valtrex to take for 10 days . Not sure if I should ask for another script for days when I ride my bike or other things like that
  24. eitak90

    Valtrex

    I had a two week checkup today from my initial dx of HSVII. My doctor initially didn't want to have me on valtrex daily, but today he decided that he wanted to keep me on it across the board. - does this mean I am less of a risk during sex? - any particular side effects I should be concerned with while taking Valtrex?
  25. justmyluck27

    Help getting Valtrex

    I have GHSV2, confirmed by IgG and Western Blot. I live in a small town where I personally know people both at my doctor's office and the pharmacy in town. I'm far too embarrassed to go to my doctor or pharmacy and ask for or pick up Valtrex. Because of this, I have been living with herpes without prescription drug help for over a year. I'm tired of this. Has anyone had success ordering from online pharmacies? Can anyone help me?
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