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    • Just a human being
      People say they want a cure but some days I wonder. If you express how stressful it’s been to support a small cohort through treatment with limited evidence most do not understand, when you ask for support or your struggles to cope with people’s trauma in treatment, or the ingrained societal perceptions, when you try to talk about the evidence it’s like you’ve done some evil thing! Apparently going against the grain to do what’s right is not worthy of human understanding or support! Expressing human vulnerability also appears to be incredibly evil! Damn! Any weakness or difficulties damn your just not worthy of care, support or respect!  After over a year in the space it’s so clear to me why there has been no progress. You are completely ostracized from the community for speaking out on this topic. How many are voiceless here too scared to speak? Yet we rarely hear from you. When you are successful you just disappear (Of course because we don’t hear from you you don’t exist! You must be a “conspiracy theory”. And even if you did then you would just be anecdotal and oh yeah that publishing evidence when they attempt to discredit it... hmm be interesting to hear the “conspiracy” stories on that one...)and I understand why as no one would listen to you anyhow! I hope for anyone reading this you get out alive lest you become a lost soul in purgatory stamping out hope for others due to confusion weaved in science and medicine.   
    • MikeHerp
      Not directly on HSV, but this general overview of where gene editing is, is a very good read. Recommend at least skimming it. A lot of excitement is building around gene editing.  https://67c5cfaa-bdc0-42a5-95c4-a822adc972c7.filesusr.com/ugd/80a6fd_a53ed12021a54292bb50ed1255e31118.pdf
    • Just a human being
      It s not really possible to ban anyone from this forum. Some people would just get back on and create a reign of terror in their wrath. I’ve seen it before. In the end everyone has to accept them and it teaches the group tolerance. Trust me I’ve been through the same feelings and I don’t want to act like I’m always Mr positive or anything cos I am Just a human being!And honestly we need to consider others welfare. They would be lost without this forum. I think if you took it away they would suffer serious trauma. It just takes a small amount of time to work around it! I have deep respect for @MikeHerp it takes a lot of work to get something like this off the ground! I think genetic research is very valuable and important!  I have duel interests human systems and health and agriculture. In the agriculture realm I’m not a big fan of say Monsanto’s brand of genetic research in application. I am a big fan of genetic research to inform plant breeding!  I think this is good work that will be insightful for humans in the future! Don’t take a few difficult people to heart! Trust me I do know it’s difficult.  I didn’t even read a single comment of theirs! Wow that’s big for me! Back to Fred Hutch....    
    • MikeHerp
      What I find interesting about this trial is that even though half life is 25 days, measurements of shedding and lesions will be done until nearly 4 months.  Maybe they expect the effect to last longer than the half life (maybe the binding effect survives longer than the half life). 
    • MikeHerp
      Message from FHC philanthropy:   “There is a small glitch with the website that we are working on. The page is still live, located here: http://engage.fredhutch.org/site/TR/PersonalFundraisingPages/General?px=1802786&pg=personal&fr_id=1574 I will need to request a new link to "fredhutch.org/hsv" for you on Monday, which is not working right now, but you can access the site from the link above in the meantime. I will let you know when that is fixed”
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Yung1

Herpes and New Job Medical Examination

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Yung1

Hi Everyone

I need some help....very badly. I have this new job that I have been dying to have, and now that I'm so close to being accepted, I understand I have to take a medical exmaniation -- meaning blood test. I have H and I am so terrified that it'll be detected and I won't get the job. I haven't had an outbreak since my first outbreak like 10 months ago... Do you think a standard blood test will be able to detect it??? God I hate this thing!!

Someone help please...:sad:

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bella303

To get over worrying you should ask the employer what is the blood test for. Knowing the answer to that question will help you determine whether you should continue the prescreening process.

Just ask....

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ginnyp

I would assume the blood test is not going to include the herpes screening tests, those tests are expensive and only given when someone thinks they need it. Why would a company include it in a blood test? I bet it's mostly standard testing - whatever that means. Just ask what they are doing the blood test for.

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Yung1
I would assume the blood test is not going to include the herpes screening tests, those tests are expensive and only given when someone thinks they need it. Why would a company include it in a blood test? I bet it's mostly standard testing - whatever that means. Just ask what they are doing the blood test for.

Thank you guys, but doesn't "standrad" blood testing detect anti-bodies?? And also, I thought about asking, but I didn't want to make myself suspectible of something...I guess I'll have to find a way to ask

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TheArcheologist

I work EMS and I was cleared with a clean bill of health. there should be no problems what so ever.

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TheArcheologist

didn't matter. they had full permission to look at my health records. its just a nuisance. we try our best to keep germs off of us, as far as i can see it works both ways.

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Morning

I would doubt that they would test for something like HSV. But in terms of finding a way to ask, maybe tell them that you are asking what is included in this test because you want to know whether a current condition is improving. Maybe choose something benign like anemia. I've asked that before.

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bikerchik

i have H and recently joined the military. they are super strict about any kind of medical condition but i didn't tell them and they have done a full medical screening, blood tests included and haven't found out. i think your pretty safe

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memyselfI

lol

nobody thinks about herpes but us... i just highly doubt they'd test for it. not to mention did I read it wrong or does the information on the right (your left) panel indicate no herpes blood test is 100 percent accurate?

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liedto
Thank you guys, but doesn't "standrad" blood testing detect anti-bodies?? And also, I thought about asking, but I didn't want to make myself suspectible of something...I guess I'll have to find a way to ask

I am not sure what kind of job this is, but I am assuming if this company is going ask you if you have any STD's or is willing to spend money to test for HSV, then it probably matters to them, and they have a legitimate reason for wanting to know. If they don't care about the HSV and you ask them what they test for, they very well may get suspicious that you are a user (Prior to becoming an infectee, I know that would have been the first thing that I would have thought if I was the person doing the test). And that will probably disqualify you for a job sooner than having an STD will. But again, depending on the job, it could be equally important.

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anna99

It should also depend on what kind of job you are applying for. Unless there is a job-related reason why having an STD renders the person unfit to perform the job duties, then it is considered discrimination to disqualify the person based on the STD. Obviously this is not the case for drug and alcohol testing which can be required for most any job. Lied To, given there is no scientific evidence that drug use causes HSV, then I think it would be discriminatory to disqualify a job applicant based on an HSV positive blood test. Please challenge this post if others think i am wrong here. I just wanted to point out that both job applicants and employees have legal rights with regard to testing. If someone is being disqualified for HSV and they are not in the medical field, they may have been discriminated against and should ask for more information.

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memyselfI

oh

yeah, if you are applying to be a high-class porn star or prostitute they may very well test for herpes.

:mrgreen:

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liedto
... Lied To, given there is no scientific evidence that drug use causes HSV, then I think it would be discriminatory to disqualify a job applicant based on an HSV positive blood test...

I think I may have sent the wrong message; I was trying to say that by her asking what they test for, Her asking alone, may be a red flag for a user and she may not get the job even with a clean drug test.

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anna99

OK i get it, thanks, but i still think it is discriminatory. Maybe she could have someone (a guy perhaps) anonymously contact the testing lab and inquire as to what company xyz is testing for. The guy could say he has applied for a job at this company and is on some medically prescribed drugs that may give false positives for certain tests. He could also then specifically inquire whether they test for STDs, too and if they say yes, inquire as to why. I know it sounds shady, but I think it is worth looking into. Sounds sketchy to me and i am an hr recruiter...

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