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notamused

anyone with oral hsv 2 know anything about shedding?

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notamused

i'm pretty sure i have oral hsv2 and i was wondering if anyone else had it and has passed it on/not passed it on/knows anything about the rate of shedding in general? (oral to oral)

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nekochan

I have both oral and genital hsv 2. I contracted hsv 2 from my boyfriend when he was having a breakout. He doesn't have oral hsv 2, and there is a possibility that he's built up an immunity to the virus, but I have avoided kissing him when I have oral breakouts.

My initial oral breakout was in my throat, and the frequency of occurrence was once a year. Yet in my 3rd year, I experienced oral breakouts on my lips every 6 months. I believe that I spread the virus from my throat to my lips just when I was getting over a severe cold.

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chooseyourbattles

I think the rate of spreading oral HSV2 is negligible.

Why did you have sex with your boyfriend when he was having an outbreak?

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NeedToKnow

I posted a response in this thread related to this:

http://www.herpes-coldsores.com/messageforum/showthread.php?t=12699

Here is one paper addressing the issue of oral shedding of HSV-2:

http://www.ki.se/odont/cariologi_endodonti/valfria/MariaEricsson.pdf

They claim:

Persons with documented HSV-2 in the mouth may be concerned about the potential for HSV-2 transmission during intimate contact such as kissing or sharing utensils, as HSV-1 is well-documented to spread by close but non-sexual contact (2). Given the infrequent shedding of HSV-2 from the mouth, the risk of HSV-2 transmission from intimate but not sexual contact, such as kissing or sharing utensils, appears remote and the patients should be reassured that they are very unlikely to transmit in nonintimate settings.

I'm not sure what they mean by "intimate but not sexual contact" and "nonintimate settings." They claim in the paper that 0.1% of days that people with oral HSV-2 will shed the virus orally. This is compared to 6% of days for genital HSV-2. This is of course when you aren't having an outbreak.

What I get from this article is that you shouldn't kiss if you are having an outbreak. If you don't have an outbreak, then kissing isn't that risky, but I wouldn't get to heavy with it. And I wouldn't do it if my partner had a cut in their mouth. I would feel terrible if I passed it on to a partner though.

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nekochan

chooseyourbattles: My boyfriend did not know he had hsv 2. He didn't have symptoms until 2 years into our relationship. We were using condoms the first year. In the second year, I was on birth control pills and his outbreak looked like an ingrown hair follicle. It wasn't until I was diagnosed with hsv 2 that he pieced the symptoms together and realized that he passed it on to me. My boyfriend never experienced the horrible initial outbreak that I had.

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