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HopefulWaiting

I think my wife and I just contracted it :(

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HopefulWaiting

I paid for a well respected opinion on line to see if what my wife and I recently experienced was initial outbreaks for both of us. My wife had symptoms before I left on a business trip... mine started a few days later when I was already out of town. There was really no way for me to get looked at, and by the time I started suspecting HSV, her symptoms were subsiding so I knew a culture would probably be negative for her. The dentist did see some sores in the roof of her mouth, but wrote them off as canker sores (which she does get from time to time).

The on-line specialist basically wrote the whole deal off as not being a primary HSV infection, but from all the research I have done on line it certainly appears to have been one to me. My wife emotionally is fine - I on the other hand am not nearly as stable as she is! We're in our mid 30's and have been married for 11 years and recurring cold sores are going to be difficult to explain since we've never had them before. I keep waiting for the first recurrence.

I guess in the end, we made our decisions and have to live with it - and we will, and eventually I'll calm down, I guess I'd just like to know if we should expect to have further recurrences. Comments appreciated and here's the link to the question I asked the doc....

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/1016263

Thanks all!

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jericho

I agree with Hook. It seems unlikely that you would both get cold sores inside your mouth, but not on your lips from kissing that girl. I think cold sores inside the mouth typically happen when someone contracts oral herpes by giving oral sex to a male with genital herpes.

You can always get tested for antibodies, to be certain.

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HopefulWaiting

Sorry, one more question - There are a lot of reports out there that say that it's likely that 80% or more of the US population has one type of HSV. Can that be REAL? I thought a large percentage of people infected with oral HSV had recurrences. Of the people that I have worked with for 10+ years, I have only maybe seen 3 of them with cold sores, ever.

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HopefulWaiting

I guess that does seem unlikely, but then again what DID we have? lol. Pretty odd set of symptoms, that when I searched online only pointed towards HSV. Anyway thanks for your reply I do appreciate it. We do plan to get tested, but it seems like we may as well wait a few months at this point (or until we get a cold sore, whichever comes first) since the antibodies take a while to develop.

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JBnATL

I agree with your on-line specialist

However, to be completely sure take the western blot blood test. That is the most accurate test for herpes. You have to wait 12 - 16 weeks after infection to take it to give your body time to create the anitbodies it will be looking for.

Good luck!

And congrats on having a wife that is into other women. I hope to find me one like that as well.

JB

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jericho
Sorry, one more question - There are a lot of reports out there that say that it's likely that 80% or more of the US population has one type of HSV. Can that be REAL? I thought a large percentage of people infected with oral HSV had recurrences. Of the people that I have worked with for 10+ years, I have only maybe seen 3 of them with cold sores, ever.

From reading various research articles, I'd estimate that 80% of the US adult population has either HSV-1, HSV-2, or both.

Lots of people with oral herpes got it as children, so by the time they are adults, OBs can become very rare. Plus people may call in sick or otherwise avoid being out in public during a bad OB, use makeup to cover it up, take antivirals to reduce the OB duration, etc. If you look for it, you will notice it more often - it's not always a huge, obvious OB.

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HopefulWaiting

And congrats on having a wife that is into other women. I hope to find me one like that as well.

JB

Well... she WAS. lol. I doubt there will be much more of that going on after this "scare", whether or not we wind up having it.

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HopefulWaiting

Lots of people with oral herpes got it as children, so by the time they are adults, OBs can become very rare. Plus people may call in sick or otherwise avoid being out in public during a bad OB, use makeup to cover it up, take antivirals to reduce the OB duration, etc. If you look for it, you will notice it more often - it's not always a huge, obvious OB.

So on the downside, if we did contract it recently, that means we probably have a rough few years coming up :(

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jericho
So on the downside, if we did contract it recently, that means we probably have a rough few years coming up :(

There are very limited scenarios under which you can conclude that you were recently infected. One would be to have a negative test sometime in the past. A subsequent positive would tell you that you contracted it in the interim period. Another would be to test negative for antibodies, but test positive via viral culture.

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HopefulWaiting

True. Theoretically if we tested now and were both negative, and tested later and were both positive, that would be the only way at this point I would assume. Unless one of us gets another outbreak within the next few weeks.

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HopefulWaiting
I agree with Hook. It seems unlikely that you would both get cold sores inside your mouth, but not on your lips from kissing that girl.

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Really? It seems I have found several articles that state that primary HSV infections in adults can be typically intra-oral only (inside the mouth). Is it typical for people to have cold sores on their lips during a primary infection?

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jericho
Really? It seems I have found several articles that state that primary HSV infections in adults can be typically intra-oral only (inside the mouth). Is it typical for people to have cold sores on their lips during a primary infection?

It is typical to have OBs manifest around the point of initial infection. That is why most people with oral herpes have OBs near their lips, or why guys who use condoms get OBs at the base of their shaft.

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HopefulWaiting

I understand the recurrent sores are typically cold sores on the lips - but isn't it common for the initial primary infection to be intra-oral only? That's what I've read in a couple of different places...

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gotitsowhat

No explanation needed

...My wife emotionally is fine - I on the other hand am not nearly as stable as she is! ... cold sores are going to be difficult to explain...

Thanks all!

Why would you have to explain them?

People get cold sores and other skin conditions all the time. Generally, our acquaintances will not be rude enough to ask about an ugly lip sore. And our close friends who might ask about it can be told that it's a cold sore and since they are our friends, there is no reason to expect any flack. It might not look good, but it's pretty common and there is no real reason to give anyone any explanation you don't want to give. It's your personal business.

As I see it, you are not Lucy Ricardo; you do not have a "lot of 'splaining to do."

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HopefulWaiting

I just looked at some pics of my tongue that I took while I had the "burning" going on... and I def. had 1 or 2 round, white, small, bubble blisters on my tongue. Still doubt it's herpes?

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jericho
I understand the recurrent sores are typically cold sores on the lips - but isn't it common for the initial primary infection to be intra-oral only? That's what I've read in a couple of different places...

Not that I'm aware of. I suppose that would be the case if the infection took place while giving oral to an infected penis.

Let us know the results after you get tested. Maybe we'll all learn something new.

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HopefulWaiting
Not that I'm aware of. I suppose that would be the case if the infection took place while giving oral to an infected penis.

Let us know the results after you get tested. Maybe we'll all learn something new.

That definitely wasn't the case as there was no infected penis involved :).

I want to believe the internet expert forum is correct in saying it's not herpes, but the engineer in me then wants to know what it was! I just can't find anything else that makes any sense. A non-std virus that caused sores in our mouths? Strange....

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