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The fragility of the HSV virus

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I came across some articles which talk about how fragile the virus is and they quote as below:

"Due to the extremely sensitive nature of this virus it is very easy for it to die in the outside world. A simple temperature drop and drying up of moisture is enough to kill this virus. Outside of the body, HSV virus cannot survive long enough"

Is anyone aware of any studies regarding the above, it will be intresting to have a read.

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JBnATL

Never seen any studies

I have read several articles similar to the one you posted, but I have never seen studies.

I have also read articles that spin it differently saying with the right moisture and temperature the virus can live outside the body for several hours. So my responses to people is to use common sense that getting infected that way is extremely unlikely but there is never a 100% certainty.

Good luck!

JB

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HSVcurious

I came across a study done by Bardell which talks about the virus being present on doorknobs and other objects for 2 hours(in room temperature 22 - 23 celcius). So I am confused by this study as people do not acquire the virus from inanimate objects. Was wondering if there is another conflicting study which can prove this wrong. Or the body works in mysterious ways to neutralize the virus before it infects the nerve cells to make it a permanent infection.

In the Herpes-coldsore.com literature it says that the virus dies in slight temperature difference, so was wondering where is the source to quote that.

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I came across a study done by Bardell which talks about the virus being present on doorknobs and other objects for 2 hours(in room temperature 22 - 23 celcius). So I am confused by this study as people do not acquire the virus from inanimate objects. Was wondering if there is another conflicting study which can prove this wrong. Or the body works in mysterious ways to neutralize the virus before it infects the nerve cells to make it a permanent infection.

In the Herpes-coldsore.com literature it says that the virus dies in slight temperature difference, so was wondering where is the source to quote that.

Check out this thread. the OP has links to a few publications (three of them in his first two posts):

http://herpes-coldsores.com/messageforum/showthread.php?t=12570

HSV buds off of cells and so is surrounded by a lipid bilayer membrane from the cell it originated in (along with proteins it made the cell put in that membrane: said proteins are needed for it to infect another cell). Destroy the lipid membrane and you destroy the virus. (soap and water are very effective)

Viruses like this are fragile compared to those without a membrane. HIV is similar. (as is HPV). But keep in mind that Robert Gallo at NIH is believed to have first isolated the HIV virus from a contaminant that got into his lab in Maryland from a letter that he recieved from another researcher in France. So, although the odds against any one virus surviving in a suboptimum environment are slim, remember that when you are shedding, you are putting out million of billions of the little buggers. (So if you want to be sure you kill 'em, don't just expect a suboptimum environment to do it: use something that actively kills them.)

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The only concern is what is the possibility of getting infected from an inanimate object. The odds are very low. First of all you are unlikely to contract genital herpes from anything object but a sex toy, because your genitalia has to come in contact with the virus, and enough of it to cause an infection. If someone touches a sore then touches a door knob you aren't going to contract the virus that way on your genitals. The only exception is maybe a towel...

Orally you can probably catch an infection from drinks or toothbrushes, but again door knobs are not really likely.

I have said many times on here my mom had oral hsv-1 and ghsv-2 and i never caught either.

Just use common sense, dont share food or intimate objects and you should be fine.

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HSVcurious

Arnt there any studies done on how the virus dies because of moisture, the only ones I found in pubmed is the Spa study done in 1983 and the virus survivability on coins, doorknob and even refrigerator at 2 degree celciu which were all conducted by Bardell.

What about the claim on one of the articles in herpes-coldsore.com about the virus dying quickly from temperature changes and exposed to air. Where is the scientific study to make this assumption?

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