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I tested positive for HSV 2 via a bloodtest but I have never had an outbreak. My doctor says I don't need to be on valtrex therefore, that it's a strong medicine and too polluting of my body if I don't have outbreaks. I'm concerned about spreading herpes though. My doctor says I seem to be suppressing the virus naturally and may have had it for years but she could not say what my rates of contagion would be with shedding. if i don't go on valtrex, what about herbal remedies like olive leaf, echinachae etc? Do herbal remedies work for suppression for asymptomatic shedding? THANKS!

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I tested positive for HSV 2 via a bloodtest but I have never had an outbreak. My doctor says I don't need to be on valtrex therefore, that it's a strong medicine and too polluting of my body if I don't have outbreaks. I'm concerned about spreading herpes though. My doctor says I seem to be suppressing the virus naturally and may have had it for years but she could not say what my rates of contagion would be with shedding. if i don't go on valtrex, what about herbal remedies like olive leaf, echinachae etc? Do herbal remedies work for suppression for asymptomatic shedding? THANKS!

it can be spread without symptoms present , recent research suggests even those who dont get symptoms can potentially spread the disease. valtrex will not completely suppress shedding but can reduce it significantly.

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JBnATL

ntdc is correct

You can transmit the virus even if you show no symptoms.

Valtrex is not really a drug you would take to prevent shedding. It is an antiviral meant to kill the virus once it is active, which may be too late for you. Lysine is an over the counter amino acid that has been shown to help prevent outbreaks. Also look into kelp extract I have heard that is good for preventing ob's as well.

Good luck!

JB

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...Valtrex is not really a drug you would take to prevent shedding. It is an antiviral meant to kill the virus once it is active, which may be too late for you...

Acyclovir (and presumably Valtrex, since Valtrex is converted to acylovir in your body) has been shown, in a double blind clinical trial, to reduce the frequency of shedding, by about 80% or so. (Wald et al, J.Clin. Inv. 99: 1092, 1997)

Since you don't have OBs, I'll note that shedding frequency drops "promptly" upon taking Acyclovir (so, presumably within 24 hrs, although they didn't actually show the time course). Shedding resumed 3-4 days after stopping the drug. So, if you are concerned about transmitting it, it depends on how often you "get it" :) whether or not you need to take it every day.

BTW, Acyclovir does not kill the virus. It inhibits the production of new virus by interfering with the duplication of the viral DNA.

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okay, so I'm clear: if I take valtrex the day before I have sex i should be okay as it will inhibit most shedding and then I can stop taking it until the day before I have sex again? I am single and sex is very very infrequent...

I was prescribed Valtrex and now have a 90 day supply. Should I get a stash of acyoclovir as well? Or will valtrex do the trick?

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either drug will work, but i think valtrex is harder on the body long term use, but if your using it mainly for dating purposes,,, you cant take a pill the day before and think your ok..you should take it at least a week before..4-5 days.. this doesnt guarentee you still wont transmit it to others,,it just reduces the chances significantly....

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