Jump to content
World's Largest Herpes Support Group
Sign in to follow this  

Crash diet for killing OBs

Recommended Posts


When I first got this thing, I didn't know the first thing about it, but I observed very quickly that sugar made existing outbreaks a LOT worse. I also did some fasting during the start of an outbreak once (I wasn't trying to starve myself, there was just no food available) and it pretty much stalled the outbreak and made it much milder when it did finally break through. This led me to research the effects of diet on the virus, which led to the lists you've probably all seen.

I find it difficult to just cut all sugar and grains out of my life, but when an outbreak starts, I slam the door on it, hard. This is a very restricted diet, I really don't recommend eating like this all the time unless you want to die of malnourishment. I only eat like this for a few days every three or four months, (during an OB) and try to eat healthy otherwise.

The core diet:

-Raw broccoli (for indole-3-carbinol. It's slightly slanted towards argenine, but contains a lot of lysine too. It doesn't seem to be notable one way or the other in acid/alkaline.) Just cut it up and eat it straight. No steaming, nothing.

-Raw tomatoes (for lysine, vitamin C, and other immune-system boosting vitamins. They are acidic, but don't worry, the next step will take care of that. I know that lysine is actually more bio-available in ketchup, but I just can't bring myself to guzzle ketchup from the jar, and I don't trust the additives.) Just cut them up and eat them straight, or get the tiny ones if that's too messy.

-Fresh-squeezed lemon juice in water. (For the alkaline. Drink enough of these babies, and you'll be as alkaline as a Duracell. The vitamin C doesn't hurt either. I have heard lemons can also help topically, cannot confirm or deny this, but it can't do any harm.) Just cut the lemon in half, squeeze it (with either a citrus juicer, or in a pinch, a fork) and drink about half a lemon's worth in a glass of water. I drink this without any sweeteners. DO NOT put sugar in it. I wouldn't recommend aspartame either. Some people said stevia is okay, but it is derived from the sunflower family, and I would avoid anything to do with seeds or nuts.

The consumption of these three things will make your body the kind of hostile place viruses won't want to raise their families.

>: D So that's my core line of attack. But wait, there's more.

-Fresh mango. (It has high lysine content, and is alkaline.) Hard to find in good, edible condition, especially off-season. If you get lucky and find some, peel it, cut it up and enjoy. Goes well with...

-Plain yogurt. (VERY high lysine content, and I've heard about dairy having positive effects too. Have heard of people using milk topically, so it can't hurt to try it topically, although I promise nothing on that front. Fun fact: plain yogurt is actually good for the vaginal balance and is used as a remedy for yeast infections, so women with vaginal outbreaks can try this internally. I don't get vaginal outbreaks, so I don't know if it helps, but it won't hurt.) Eat with spoon. Can add chunks of mango. Since I couldn't find any fresh mango, I am eating mine with an organic, no-sugar-added mango juice I got in a health food store. Tastes rather good, actually, and fingers crossed.

-Zinc and B vitamins. Just saw these around and decided to start taking them. They certainly haven't done any harm. Note: I don't take a multi because multis contain iron. Iron is usually a good thing, but mild anemia actually helps you fight off viruses. You don't want to be anemic all the time, but it's your temporary friend.

-Nothing. Intermittent fasting (and low iron) boost cathelicidin, which is part of your immune system and kicks viral ass. You'll note that there isn't a whole lot of food on this diet. There's a reason for that.

Note that this diet is primarily EXCLUSIVE and not inclusive. In other words, you don't have this AND a hamburger. You just have this. Although adding things in from the "good" list is probably okay, just use common sense. I've been meaning to experiment with straight black tea, as I've heard good things.

There you have it. This diet stops outbreaks from getting worse and switches them to healing mode pretty fast for me, and I hope it helps others too.


-This is NOT a long-term strategy. It is an "OMG I want this outbreak to end NOW" diet. You'd use something way more moderate for prevention. This diet is not even remotely balanced.

-It doesn't taste that great to most people. Unsweetened lemon? Raw broccoli? Plain yogurt? Raw tomatoes by THEMSELVES? If you're used to everything being doused in sugar and corn syrup, it's a shock to the palate. Personally, I don't think it's that bad.

-It makes me pee a lot. Maybe it's all the lemon juice, or that there's so much water in veggies, but if you're like me, you'll wonder how Niagara Falls ended up in your crotch.

-It makes my stool liquid and green. Gross, right? Not as gross as some things I can think of...

-It makes me drop a lot of weight in a hurry. If you have a low weight and are likely to disappear if you turn sideways as it is, or if you have some kind of eating disorder and could become obsessed with something that makes you shed pounds, this might be really dangerous for you. For the rest of you, if you don't mind dropping a dress size, it probably won't do any harm. (Note: I also get really bad fevers diet or no diet, which could contribute to my weight loss. Your results may vary.)

-I am not a doctor. Some or all of this may be medically inaccurate. It seems to work for me, and I'm not dead yet. That's about the only promise I can make.

Other relevant info:

I am not on any meds, prescription or otherwise. Too damn poor. I've used the OTC cream Abreva, which seems to do more than nothing, less than what I'd like. I used Abreva with this diet, but I've also used Abreva alone, and there's really no comparison.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • The Hive is Thriving!

    • Total Topics
    • Total Posts
  • Posts

    • TCBH
      You don't put it down there. you put it on your arm. 
    • luvurself16
      I got hsv from a police officer. Sickos out there.
    • Toro
      I am 44 and I have active herpes in both of my eyes.Only Amenalief helps.
    • Jayne
      I know this thread is a couple of years old, but it’s been helpful to me, and I wanted to contribute as well. Back to Berliner’s original post, I’ve tested negative on several IGGs, with the latest ones being 1 yr and now almost 2 years past exposure.  Figuring out what was going on was the worst nightmare I’ve ever been through in my life. I made the mistake of drinking heavily a week after my father died of cancer, and I had unprotected AS with an ex, who happened to be poly and had some occasional unprotected M2M encounters.   Three days later I had a red line rash along my (sorry to get explicit) crack. This was followed by a rectal burning. Tested negative for G&C and related tests.  Over the next couple of weeks I had severe swelling and discomfort in my lower right quadrant and was told to go to the ER, where (I guess as a standard practice) they did a cat scan, which revealed nothing.  Also not a bacterial infection.  However the repeated manual examinations that occurred at urgent care and the ER seemed to relieve the abdominal pressure over the next few days.  I then had diarrhea for the next several weeks after.  I developed what felt like internal hemorrhoids, which were exacerbated by the diarrhea, and a gastro doctor confirmed via digital exam that there was indeed some sort of mass that felt like possible hemorrhoids. He ordered a sigmoidoscopy, but by the time it was undertaken, whatever was there was gone. After the procedure though, I felt much better for a while, possibly due to digestive issues clearing up after the colon “cleanse.” But this was concurrent with other issues.   About 3 weeks after the encounter I developed a large rash on my left thigh. Shortly thereafter I started having light sensitivity issues, culminating in a fever-like state after being outside in the sun only for 15 minutes after work. At work around that time for a couple days I felt like I was going through life encased in a gauzy gel- similar to being on laughing gas at the dentist, but not in a good way. I didn’t know what the hell was happening to me. I developed a severe case of canker sores for about a day. Later during a sunny drive, after getting back in the car at a gas station I noticed a red blotch below my lip. I tried to shrug it off but it happened again on the trip back.  So by about a month after the encounter I was having more anxiety. I spent the night at a friend’s house and woke up with a massive, swollen red eye and swollen lips. I got eye drops for bacterial conjunctivitis but that was wishful thinking.  A couple of weeks later, my lips were covered in sores. I smothered them with abreva. By the next day, they had mostly gone away. I tried to do a swab test at urgent care (I believe it was the next day), but there was not enough there to make any sort of positive diagnosis. Since then, I’ve had what you could call repeated aborted lesions and red blotches that appear around my mouth, particularly after stress and alcohol consumption. But even having peanut butter or chocolate would set it off for a long time. Fair skin doesn’t help- there was no hiding it. Two months after the encounter, I had my first vaginal burning- it was pretty intense and I had to use ice cubes because I didn’t know what else to do.   The worse feeling though was the periodic flare-ups of rectal itching/burning, often accompanied by another red line rash. It made sitting uncomfortable for about the next two months. I couldn’t wear pants at work- only skirts seemed to make things somewhat less irritated. And for the first three months, I was still testing for HIV along with HSV because of the overlapping symptoms (rash, diarrhea, neural pain, severe flu like symptoms without fever). I lost a lot of weight and had panic attacks. On top of all this I had just moved to a new city and started a new job and didn’t have a support network. And the sad thing is, I had to deal with all of this instead of being able to grieve for my father and being a better source of support to my mother. She had to support me without understanding what was happening.   Another bad thing through all of this was having both my ex and my current partner treat me like I’m crazy. That makes me feel alone and in the dark. Another “hysterical woman.” F*** that.  And while I felt grateful that my current was at the time still ready to be with me even if I had hsv, it’s a little discomfiting that he still doesn’t really believe me. But I’ve learned to live with ambiguity. And now I’m used to doctors as well as partners acting like this is nonexistent. Especially with negative IGG tests even 2 years later, which have left me without any answers.  I’m lucky in a way to be able to blend in because I don’t get obvious sores, genitally or orally (I can cover up the blotches with concealer, and they fortunately have lessened in frequency). But I still get the rectal itching/burning every six months or so (anthistamines seem to alleviate it a bit). And as more of a concern, I’ve had a cramp in my lower right quadrant ever since, which feels like it’s in my digestive tract. Since this has pretty much spread everywhere else in my body, intestinal involvement wouldn’t surprise me, and it isn’t unheard of anyways. I’ve tried to move past this and have since gotten married to my partner, who is a source of support (even if he doesn’t believe I’m having health problems. I know that’s a contradiction but occasionally I want to believe that too.).  I’m also newly pregnant, and symptoms have started to flare up again somewhat. I’m sure this will be an adventure. Hopefully more good than crazy. I know I’m going to struggle with the fear of passing this along but I’m trying to reconcile what doctors say (which is that it is extremely rare) with my own intuition about what I need to be careful of. Maybe I’ll repost with an update down the road. In short, there are people out there who test negative and have to live with loved ones and doctors thinking that a negative test closes the book on this. Again, learning to live with ambiguity is a real life lesson that I’m still coming to grips with. This forum and specifically this post have been a source of comfort that I haven’t been able to find elsewhere. Thanks everyone for the support for the community.     
    • Rockster
      You deepthroat so good that you get all kinds of mouth-to-skin-of-base contact? Kudos to you, but that is extremely rare. 

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.