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Hello. I have lived with HS1 for 20+ years and am so tired of it. It has changed my life because I think the virus is every where and I tend to wash my hands all the time. I hate touching things! I am so tired of living this way.

We need to do something about this already because the pharmaceutical companies are banking on our money.

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Hi mx and welcome to the site. Do you have oral or genital herpes? when you mentioned that you think the virus is everywhere - are you meaning on your body, or out in every day life?

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Every day life. In my head it is every where and on everything and I am always afraid to touch anything. If I have to touch something, I run and wash my hands.

If i see someone with it and he/she touches something, I freak out.

I really hate touching high traffic things. (door handles, menus, stuff on restaurant tables, community pens, etc...) If i do, i try and only touch it with one hand so one hand is free and then before touching anything of mine (even cell phone, wallet, etc..) I go and wash my hands,

I really can't live like this anymore.

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What you have to remember is that you already have this skin virus, you can't get it 'again'! So it makes no difference what you touch and where. Being a skin virus, it needs just that to transmit. It completely loses its punch away from skin. Therefore if it ever happens to end up sitting somewhere else such as a glass, utensil etc it would not survive very long. I think you are not alone in your dislike of touching high traffic things. I for one can't stand touching trolley handles at the supermarket! While it is good to be hygienic, don't go over board and let it ruin or run your life. You'll probably end up doing more damage to the skin of your hands than you will to your head! You can do things yourself such as always take a pen with you, so you don't have to use ones at counters etc. I always do this at the doctor's surgery. You could also buy yourself a little bottle of sanitizer gel for when you are out and just apply a small amount when you have come into contact with things that make you uncomfortable. That is all you need. Other than that, have fun and enjoy life!

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But can't coming in contact with the virus trigger an outbreak?

Meaning if someone has it, touches it and then say shakes my hand and then I go and scratch my mouth area, isn't there a possibility to trigger an outbreak on me?

I am just so tired of getting them. It really puts a damper on my life with everything.

I read that the alcohol based sanitizers don't kill the herpes virus?

I wish I knew some answers of some questions that I have about this virus?

Like, while showering, if the water falls on it and that same water drips down, can I cause myself to get genital herpes?

Brushing teeth? Do I have to be careful?, etc...

Your help has been much appreciated!

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No it can't trigger an outbreak. It would only trigger an outbreak if you had not previously had herpes and you were coming into contact with it for the first time.

How often do you get outbreaks? Do you know your triggers? What treatment do you use? Nothing at this point kills the herpes virus.

When I have had an oral outbreak, I avoid water on my face. I have had the experience of infecting otherwise clear skin below the sores when I have done that. I don't think any infected water would get that far down to cause genital herpes.

If you get your outbreaks on your lips, it is advisable to change your toothbrush after each time you have an outbreak.

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