"New" Way to Kill Viruses

[SuperManFace]

Hello guys, http://www.livescience.com/health/080205-virus-shattering.html

I haven't posted a topic in a while I mostly add my two cents to everything...I'm a two cent guy I guess... But I have recently become interested in Dr. Royal Rife. I mean this guy has invented insane microscopes and was ahead of any scientist living today, BACK THEN... So there has to be some truth to the frequency stuff. I also have a good imagination so I defiantly understand vibrations and energies, but only after thinking about it for many years and learning all kinds of other things. I seriously think this guy was some kind of alien. This article is all his work, which is decades ago. It is funny how they put "new". That is so low to steal credits like that. I liked the frequency and vibrational talk a while ago, but now that I am older I really understand the frequency stuff. What I was wondering is if anyone here knows anything about this? Has anyone discovered the good and the bad? Has anyone been through the rife stage?

I understand there is a lot of controversy regarding blood electrification, but I believe in it to some extent. Dr. Clark has a very bad reputation and is known to have wrong mortal oscillatory rates for organisms and the clark zappers don't work. Beck has a better reputation and I believe in the blood electrification, but only for cleaning up the blood. It shouldn't have an effect on other organs. Really won't cure disease by itself except for malaria since it is strictly involving the blood, and the liver which is fully of blood. Another thing is that the electromagnetic pulse generators or "zappers" as Beck heads call em would make sense to me except for that I heard electromagnetic pulses can cause cancer, but that may be at a different frequency, just like how a blue laser cannot ever cause cancer. What I was wondering is how can I find out what Dr. Rife used? What the hell is a rife machine? It sure can't be a zapper. I just can't see this genius zapping points on a patients body, because how can you ever be 100% sure you get the exact spots. And with zappers there is all kinds of danger to your nerves and you have to be careful. So I am thinking this may be a probably a big machine... Anyways in the article, http://www.livescience.com/health/080205-virus-shattering.html it mentions ultrasound, which can travel very deep through all kinds of barriers. An ultrasound machine can be built at home. If only one knew at what frequency the herpes would die. Perhaps build one and hit all the frequencies all the time? Does anyone know anything about this?

[Sweet7]

I think this is a good idea but only ultrasound would work for HSV. I could be wrong, but if HSV looses it’s membrane and only injects it’s dna into our neurons, this would not cure us. That unless they can figure out the right frequency to break up the dna. This is quite interesting stuff. I haven’t studied it before but am not surprised at the possibility.

[Sweet7]

On second thought, if you could shake a virus to death, I think my magic wand would be the best antiviral around, but it hasn’t worked yet. I gotta say, I will sure have fun trying. Lol. Sorry, I just couldn't stop laughing when I happened to think about it.

[ATGC]

This is indeed old news. If this did work it would be new news. And yet it is not - people speculate about this and try it - but there is no sound scientific basis for it. At most you may agitate the virus by electric current. But is it a good thing or not? Depends. Try TENS-unit and tell.

[Sweet7]

I was just joking around on my second post. Thought I might give someone a good laugh. Well, that's for those who know what the magic wand is. This article talks about shaking the virus membranes lose. Think about it

[tle303]

I have found that licorice root tea is awesome at stopping the virus in it's track. The only thing is is that it is very detoxifying so start out slow. I also use the lemon balm and it clears it up in just a couple of days. Good luck to everyone and I hope this helps.

[brahmanett083229]

i really believe this..a friend of mine uses shock therapy whenever he gets a coldesore..he uses a battery and two wires to shock the virus and he says that his ob is gone in a day or two..it breaks up the virus before it can do its magic

[johnny5]

I think Bob Beck invented it. I don't know.

[SuperManFace]

I think this is a good idea but only ultrasound would work for HSV. I could be wrong, but if HSV looses it’s membrane and only injects it’s dna into our neurons, this would not cure us. That unless they can figure out the right frequency to break up the dna. This is quite interesting stuff. I haven’t studied it before but am not surprised at the possibility.

Yes I think of the same thing, but how can Rife cure viral infections because all viruses inject their dna into our cells. Killing only the virions means that it would only halt replication. Maybe it works in a different way.

[SuperManFace]

The concepts all come from Royal Rife's work.

[SuperManFace]

I think Bob Beck invented it. I don't know.

The concepts all come from Royal Rife's work.

[SuperManFace]

i really believe this..a friend of mine uses shock therapy whenever he gets a coldesore..he uses a battery and two wires to shock the virus and he says that his ob is gone in a day or two..it breaks up the virus before it can do its magic

My outbreaks last about a day if I do have one, and I don't do anything.

[SuperManFace]

I found what I was looking for guys, it is actually sitting under some kind of light.

[camomile]

You are a visionary, aren't you SMF.

I believe that you are far more than "2 pence" on this forum

You bring interesting concepts.

xx

[Herpes Awareness]

oh come on, this stuff is just like the quack cures and snake oil that have been peddled for centuries for difficult disease, preying on people's hopes and wallets.

at the time of the bubonic plague (Black Death) in Europe around the 14th century, quacks sprung up everywhere claiming to have a magic cure in exchange for money, at a time nobody even had a disease theory or understood micro-organisms. They often died from bubonic plague themselves from coming into contact with sufferers and even tried their own quack cures in desperation before dying horribly. the only way of getting rid of bubonic plague is to get rid of the rats and fleas from domestic settings and invent antibiotics.

there appears to be no shortage of 'miracle cures' for this stubborn herpesvirus which is incurable and lifelong.

that's why it's illegal in this country at least to claim that you have a cure for HIV or cancer. flat out illegal.

[Sabrina32]

it is unfortunate that hsv sufferers are the targets of such false cures. It should be illegal for that as well.

[SuperManFace]

I don't exactly buy into the bob beck thing all the way, but there is something definitely legitimate about Royal Rife. Even so, I am constantly looking for clues that disprove this concept, instead all I see are things that prove these ideas.

[SuperManFace]

oh come on, this stuff is just like the quack cures and snake oil that have been peddled for centuries for difficult disease, preying on people's hopes and wallets.

at the time of the bubonic plague (Black Death) in Europe around the 14th century, quacks sprung up everywhere claiming to have a magic cure in exchange for money, at a time nobody even had a disease theory or understood micro-organisms. They often died from bubonic plague themselves from coming into contact with sufferers and even tried their own quack cures in desperation before dying horribly. the only way of getting rid of bubonic plague is to get rid of the rats and fleas from domestic settings and invent antibiotics.

there appears to be no shortage of 'miracle cures' for this stubborn herpesvirus which is incurable and lifelong.

that's why it's illegal in this country at least to claim that you have a cure for HIV or cancer. flat out illegal.

That may be one reason, but there are also many another reasons. I can't claim I personally have the cure for HIV, but I will claim that I know the general direction one may take to cure it. If you want to debate on me about the HIV cure I will happily debate you and demolish any argument you have with real clinical data performed by the very institutions that claim there is no cure. Now, a readily available cure is indeed not around.

[SuperManFace]

This is indeed old news. If this did work it would be new news. And yet it is not - people speculate about this and try it - but there is no sound scientific basis for it. At most you may agitate the virus by electric current. But is it a good thing or not? Depends. Try TENS-unit and tell.

Actually there is a scientific basis for it. Another variant of this concept is using sonar to destroy viruses in tissue.

[SuperManFace]

You bring interesting concepts.

xx

To attack a problem you need a strategy not a tactic so as many concepts as possible must be analyzed for a clearer picture.

[camomile]

I probably wouldn't buy those formula myself (way too expensive x) but if ppl have faith in something so strongly, it might work. Apparently, ppl who have strong spiritual belief has a stronger immunity and far less anxiety/stress than ppl who haven't.

I agree with HA most of the time. You are a man of logic ) I still like to think there are certain "something" science cannot explain "yet" and thinking outside the box may provide a solution to this sneaky virus.

xx

[camomile]

This goes really off-topic (sorry folks xx) but has anyone seen a guy on tv who's HIV positive and he does not believe it's retrovirus that is causing AIDS? He believes AIDS may be caused by the unhealthy gut flora and he advocates ppl to eat more probiotic foods? He looked fit as a fiddle. He was on a science program on bbc. again I call him a visionary. Someone who believes in something outside the box and he's a happy man.

xx

[SuperManFace]

This goes really off-topic (sorry folks xx) but has anyone seen a guy on tv who's HIV positive and he does not believe it's retrovirus that is causing AIDS? He believes AIDS may be caused by the unhealthy gut flora and he advocates ppl to eat more probiotic foods? He looked fit as a fiddle. He was on a science program on bbc. again I call him a visionary. Someone who believes in something outside the box and he's a happy man.

xx

Yeap how about this:

That's from house of numbers. Bear in mind this guy is the discoverer of HIV, also a Nobel Prize Laureate. Roberto Gallo discovered it after Luc did and said it is the cause of AIDS, this gave him huge financial kick backs. Huge lawsuit blah blah long story short they agreed to combine Luc's name for it and Robert's name for it. Luc and every other Retrovirus specialist protested that it does not cause AIDS and it lives peacefully with your immune system. They call it a harmless passenger virus. It should be like catching a cold. BTW, everyone tests positive for HIV so the test must be diluted. This other scientists from the HIV does not cause AIDS documentary says there is no such thing as a slow virus, only slow virologists. A virus only has 2 weeks to do what it can do, after that, its game over for the virus. I agree with that guy who says its from unhealthy gut flora.

[SuperManFace]

I probably wouldn't buy those formula myself (way too expensive x) but if ppl have faith in something so strongly, it might work. Apparently, ppl who have strong spiritual belief has a stronger immunity and far less anxiety/stress than ppl who haven't.

I agree with HA most of the time. You are a man of logic ) I still like to think there are certain "something" science cannot explain "yet" and thinking outside the box may provide a solution to this sneaky virus.

xx

I agree with you on that. I also have this theory that psychopaths (fearless dominant personality types) do not get sick, because they have no anxiety. Fear is a negative energy. It has usually negative effects on our bodies. Those people who are immune and have girlfriends or boyfriends with HSV should be tested to see what kind of personality type they are. Their psychopathy (pronounced sike-aahh-pathy, not psycho-pathy) level should also be tested.

I believe by meditating all the time one can cure themselves of disease. Scientists are studying this buddhist monk who cured his gangrene and viral diabetes and pots disease or someshit like that. He did it by meditating all day for a year straight, taking only breaks to eat. No sleep, just meditation.

I understand fully why this works, I just can't put it in words. It would probably take me several pages. But there are a few things to keep in mind. For one, everyone knows our cells and molecules and all that have electromagnetic fields, however small they may be. Electromagnetic fields are polarized, they have to be(plus and minus). Secondly, our bodies are also electrified and we run on electricity. Electricity is instant. At the microscopic level, things function as waves. This wave function collapses in macroscopic world. Or at least appears that way. Since things function as waves, everything is synergistic and in harmony.

I really think concentrating on your body can give you control over functions that are involuntary but you need meditation to strengthen your abilities.. lemme explain why I think this.

Your attention is composed of the need to pay attention and the desire to drift away or wander (fear + anger). This is control. After meditating for so long, you gain more control. Which should synergistically translate into your body gaining more control. Or a part of your brain really, that becomes more efficient to be able to control involuntary functions. If there is something in your body you are concentrating on to change, you must figure out how to link what your are trying to do through an understanding or even perhaps ideology. But these connections have to be made somehow.

[SuperManFace]

this is why im getting into this shit called tsa lung meditation...