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I am the one that posted the studies on circumcision stopping obs in a couple studies that were done and followed up on for many years. I was circumcised 6 weeks ago and I have not had an ob since. Also the daily prodomes and zings and zangs in the legs and butt have diminished 95%. Whenever I would work out, eat bad food or drink I would get prodomes. After the circ this has gone away. I always new those sensitive nerves on my foreskin where the virus first entered and broke out were causing this virus to be so sensitive so I got rid of them. Let me tell you it was the best decision of my life. I feel like it has made me sane again and I can be normal. My GF is also hsv2+ and I do not know if I should have unprotected sex with to infect areas on my penis that were not exposed before and have never had an ob. I do not get obs on the glans so I am going to do a 4 month daily pcr testing to see if I shed the virus at all. I will keep you all updated. I went to the ends of the earth to figure out what to do and this was by far the best thing I have done.

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My GF is also hsv2+ and I do not know if I should have unprotected sex with to infect areas on my penis that were not exposed before and have never had an ob. I do not get obs on the glans so I am going to do a 4 month daily pcr testing to see if I shed the virus at all. I will keep you all updated. I went to the ends of the earth to figure out what to do and this was by far the best thing I have done.

Interesting premise.

The thing is, regardless of the exact pinpoint location of the skin surface that the herpes virus initially entered your system, you can get lesions anywhere in the genital area at any point. The viral particles come to the surface via the nerve pathways, which cover that entire "boxer shorts area."

Many folks go a long time having recurrences in the same place, then suddenly have one in a new spot for no particular reason they can determine. Other folks have OBs that jump from spot to spot right from the get-go. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it, as is typical of so many things about herpes.

I wish you luck with this experiment, but I do hope you are prepared for possible disappointment.

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Is it possible to test yourself for shedding on a given day? I have never heard of such a thing

No, there is no test available that one can use to check shedding on a given day which can yield the sort of results I believe you are hoping.

When researchers were studying rates of asymptomatic shedding, the subjects of the studies were swabbed on a frequent (some daily) basis. But the swab test results were not available immediately. It was a study that was done over time. So they would know if a test subject had been shedding on, say, January 15, but they would not know it until a later time (say, for instance, January 24).

There is no way to know "right now" whether or not you are experiencing viral shedding. By the time those results are back, your status could have changed.

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thanks realisticgal That would be amazing if someone could develop such a thing. hopefully sometime in the not-so-distant future...

Yeah, we have talked about it here before. If one of us could come up with such a thing, it would make us rich!

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I don't know if anyone out there is actually working on such an idea, unfortunately.

Hey, Lifestest --- sorry for being so negative about your prospects with the circumcision thing. Hope it works for you.

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Hi Lifetest.... I am waiting 4 ur reply on circumcicsion.... that... How much better r u feeling now after 6 mnths of that surgery.....

My dermetalogist is advising me to get that circumcision surgery done ONLY WHEN I GET AN OUTBREAK..... But my SURGEON is against this...... What do U think, pal....??

Dermetalogist is saying that ATLEAST major chunk of that Herpes VIRUS will be removed out with that foreskin, so better do it when I have that outbreak, probably on the 2nd to 5th day of that outbreak.

Now i am also doing HOMOEOPATHY to atleast increase my IMMUNITY, so that i get less BURNING or that ZiNG SENSATION all around my genitals..... Do reply buddy... Cheers!!

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Mmmm...As I understand it, the herpes virus is always dormant in your ganglion. So gettting circumcised during an outbreak will not do much in general for the infection since the herpes viruses in your ganglion will continue going out and replicating.

It's a bit like when you take valtrex during an outbreak. Yes, the valtrex will kill the virus on the skin... but in the long term it doesn't do much since the virus in the ganglion is still there.

In my uneducated opinion, I agree with your surgeon that having a circumcision while having an outbreak is not a good idea. The chances of bacterial superinfection (and thus wound infection) would be higher, and maybe there's a little chance you might get viremia and I don't know the consequences of that but doesn't seem like a good thing.

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Thnx Adrius.... Thanx a lot 4 ur reply.... Yeah U are right..... thats what my surgeon said that he is scared of the bacterial infection that cud spread while cutting down the foreskin.... But i still await the reply from Lifetest that how he is feeling now after 6 mnths of that circumcision surgery??? `Coz he mentions[above] that he hadnt got any obs until 6 weeks as per his above msg in Jan 2011....

Now, i am really confused whether i shud go 4 that circumcision.... as i always knew that the virus stays in tha ganglion i.e. there below the spine....

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It makes no sense to do this during an outbreak. I think you should get a different surgeon.

I suppose the idea of circumcision could have some merit for reducing outbreaks if you were infected on the foreskin. While it's true that there is some inter-neuronal spread of the virus, the most likely point of recurrence is right around where the virus entered. So, I guess cutting off the nerve endings that were initially infected could reduce the recurrence rate. Seems pretty drastic to me though.

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I am the one that posted the studies on circumcision stopping obs in a couple studies that were done and followed up on for many years. I was circumcised 6 weeks ago and I have not had an ob since. Also the daily prodomes and zings and zangs in the legs and butt have diminished 95%. Whenever I would work out, eat bad food or drink I would get prodomes. After the circ this has gone away. I always new those sensitive nerves on my foreskin where the virus first entered and broke out were causing this virus to be so sensitive so I got rid of them. Let me tell you it was the best decision of my life. I feel like it has made me sane again and I can be normal. My GF is also hsv2+ and I do not know if I should have unprotected sex with to infect areas on my penis that were not exposed before and have never had an ob. I do not get obs on the glans so I am going to do a 4 month daily pcr testing to see if I shed the virus at all. I will keep you all updated. I went to the ends of the earth to figure out what to do and this was by far the best thing I have done.

Wow, congratulations! I'm sure it was painful, but most definitely worth it, yes?

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I suppose the idea of circumcision could have some merit for reducing outbreaks if you were infected on the foreskin. While it's true that there is some inter-neuronal spread of the virus, the most likely point of recurrence is right around where the virus entered. So, I guess cutting off the nerve endings that were initially infected could reduce the recurrence rate. Seems pretty drastic to me though.

The nerve endings on the foreskin would be attached to the same nerves that come up through the glans of the penis, would they not?

None of this about circumcision "getting rid of" HSV makes sense to me. If a person has oral HSV, should they cut off their lips to reduce the chance of outbreaks?

Nor does the OP's concern about having sex with his HSV2 positive GF make sense, since he still has GHSV2 and cannot get it again.

For what it's worth, the OP has not posted since January. Prior to this post about circumcision, he was all about "zinc" as the cure-all for his symptoms. Then he posted this one time about circumcision and was never heard from again.

I'm just sayin'... :wavey:

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RealisticGal... I think u are really realistic & straight-fwd.... Atleast thats what i perceive from ur msgs here.... :)

Yeah , me too wonders that WHY hasnt the above boarder: *LiFETEST* replied or written any other msg. since January??

Probably he is again getting those GHSV-2 outbreaks again, even after his circumcision???... I very eagerly want to know from him THAT how low has the frequency of his GHSV-2 obs reduced after he got circumcised.... ?? But NO REPLiES until now...... :(

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The nerve endings on the foreskin would be attached to the same nerves that come up through the glans of the penis, would they not?

Well, yes and no. All nerves are connected, it's really just a matter of how closely. If you cut off the foreskin, the virus is still going to be able to travel down the same nerve pathways, and it will still be able to get pretty close (within an inch or so) to where it used to cause outbreaks. Whether cutting off the ends of some of those pathways would reduce symptoms in any meaningful way I cannot say.

There was apparently a randomized study that showed some positive effect of circumcision. I haven't read the whole study, and have my doubts about it. I recall one study that looked at the rates of recurrence of the virus on genital vs. non-genital cutaneous skin (in people who got outbreaks on both), and found that the non-genital recurrences occurred about half as frequently as the genital ones. The authors suggested that the reason may be that the nerves aren't as densely concentrated in that type of skin. So, I guess what I'm saying is, removing some of the virus's pathways to the skin could in theory impact the recurrence rate.

With all that said, I understand adult circumcision is very painful, and I don't think I would recommend it without more concrete data.

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schmack, i agree with U that the frequency of the recurrences reduces atleast in the case of GHSV2... That study was also put up by the above boarder: LiFETEST on another thread, but i still wonder that WHY HE ISNT REPLYING to my queries???

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Can anyone here help this CONFUSED SOUL in making up my mind on WHETHER A CIRCUMCISION HELPS in REDUCING THE NO. OF OBS & THEREBY REDUCING MY STRESS LEVELS TOO??? I am very much concerned about my family, especially my wife... Yes I do use a condom & it has been a regular habit.... But for many days i dont have sex with her, coz my mental-state is only thinking about this dirty-filthy disease called GHSV2....??? I do always have this BURNING-SENSATION on & around the penis area, as well as, the ANUS / anal area too & this zing is constantly existing thru`out.... Probably somedays it is lesser, but overall it is there all the time, whether i am in a theatre watchin` a movie or in a restt. etc. It is REALLY DISGUSTING & my nerves around that areas are getting more n more irritative & heaty... & what not!!

Shud i go ahead with my circumcision???

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There is nobody here who can help this confused soul... :confused:

No one has replied as yet..... Shae!.... :(

Sid, it is likely that the person who made that original post no longer visits the forum. I am highly dubious of the effectiveness of circumcision for this. I suggest you pursue other avenues of relief.

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It could be that he thinks he is cured and want to get past the stigma and forget he has ghsv so he quit the forum.i have also studied this idea and all my research say uncircumcised are 50% more likely to catch a sti/std than someone who is.the idea is not to stop or cure but to reduce the ob because with the skin it is far sensitive to movement/heat/touch etc.what the surgery does is to desensitize it so you have more control.i too am considering this surgery.my idea is it's better to just worry about diet and exercise than worry about walking the wrong way or sweating too much

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Sid, it is likely that the person who made that original post no longer visits the forum. I am highly dubious of the effectiveness of circumcision for this. I suggest you pursue other avenues of relief.

But i think CiRCUMCiSiON atleast would help in reducing those irritating obs... Dont ya think, RG??

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It could be that he thinks he is cured and want to get past the stigma and forget he has ghsv so he quit the forum.i have also studied this idea and all my research say uncircumcised are 50% more likely to catch a sti/std than someone who is.the idea is not to stop or cure but to reduce the ob because with the skin it is far sensitive to movement/heat/touch etc.what the surgery does is to desensitize it so you have more control.i too am considering this surgery.my idea is it's better to just worry about diet and exercise than worry about walking the wrong way or sweating too much

I 100% agree with you, JSling... :)

Even the research put up by the above member: LiFETEST, gives us the same info. ...WotSay..??

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I also thought about doing the circumcision to reduce the constant nagging burning sensation on my glans penis. But if you think about it, circumcision is kind of double edged sword. The foreskin acts like a barrier so OBs won't spread to other areas like crouch, thigh, etc. At the same time, if you don't remove the foreskin, it keeps the area underneath moist which may cause bacterial and perhaps frequent HSV infection. I remember reading somewhere that HSV hates Oxygen. You are giving safe haven to the virus by covering the glans penis and the OB areas with the foreskin. So I am kind of on the fence. If I know for sure circumcision reduces the OBs, I will get one ASAP. BTW, if you have OBs on your foreskin, removing it will not help. The OBs will just appear on the skin where the foreskin was attached to the shaft because the nerve ending is still intact. It will be interesting to find out from the OP if that's case.

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