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Again, sorry for more than one post but you guys are great and supportive and it is helping me cope some :p. Anyway, I have read alot of conflicting information and I know this bugger is tricky but bear with me. So my current outbreak which I have to assume is my primary is bad. I have alot of sores mostly above my genitals which sucks because its near my waistline and boxers and pants irritate the area. I have a few on my penis but only two. It appeared 5 days ago and ill get me test results in a few days but the doc was sure I have it because my lymph nodes in the groin are swollen and for a few days had painful urination.

My questions are these. I have never noticed or identified any bumps, painful urination, swollen lymph nodes or anything before and I am really good at examining myself for other things anyways like lumps on testicles and such. Not to mention I like to keep the area well groomed and know those parts pretty well I guess. This outbreak hit me hard with flu like symptoms and everything else I mentioned and has only marginally improved although the sores have not subsided at all only the painful urination. This would make this my first outbreak more than likely correct? And if so that would mean my infection was recent correct? Until I get my results back my current girlfriend is holding off on a blood test. But either way almost all of the sites including the CDC state that incubation is up to 26 days prior to the PRIMARY outbreak. So this should, although not 100% but should indicate my outbreak is probably from my current girlfriend of six months?

I know I have had answers to a few other questions and were similar but I have done so much research in the last 24 hours I am just confused beyond belief. Thanks

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Hi cramerb. First off, welcome to this site and I hope you start feeling better soon. As you stated in your post, this virus is very tricky. There really isn't a "typical" or "normal" about it. I had my first OB 4 months into my relationship and my bf is negative and I definitely did not cheat, so it is possible to have your first OB well after 26 days from when you get it. I wasn't with anyone for awhile before him as well. My doctor told me that this virus can lay dormant for years. After reading tons of stories on this site, my personal experience, and my research - I know this is true. I think that "typically" (although there really isn't a typical) people show symptoms 2-26 days after getting the virus, BUT that is not always the case. It can lay dormant for years. Plus, some people (actually most) are asymptomatic and never show symptoms. I hope this helps. I'm sure there are some other members who are more informative that can weigh in as well.

You could have got it from your gf, but it is really hard to say for sure. Even if she is positive, who is to say that you didn't give it to her. Unfortunately, herpes is not tested for in routine STD tests, even when you say test for everything. I found that out after my first OB! So either one of you could have had it and not known (most people are asymptomatic). Unless one of you was a virgin before (assuming its HSV2 and not HSV1, which would typically be from oral sex) or had a negative test for HSV before you got together, it tends to be tricky when trying to figure out who had it first. I hope you are just trying to figure out where you got it and not playing the blame game. Unfortunately, it can be tricky when you're trying to figure out where/when you got this virus.

It will all get easier in time. I was diagnosed at the end of November and I totally understand all of your confusion. There definitely is some conflicting information out there. This site helped me a lot though, so keep asking questions and read the links to the right. It really does get easier, it is just a lot to take in a first. Take care :) Hope this helped a bit.

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      Hi there @ScubaSteeve and welcome to the website. If you have had genital HSV for 10 years there is a chance the testing did not distinguish type. The answers to the following questions will help a bit: - where are your outbreaks specifically and what frequency? - have you had any IgG antibody testing for HSV?
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      Hi LLS.... I'm very sorry you are having so much discomfort from this outbreak.... the first outbreaks are always the most troublesome but  they will get less aggressive as time passes.  I personally find that valacyclovir is much more effective than just acyclovir so you may want to ask your doctor about switching and seeing if that helps.  Ask your doctor on Saturday if you really need to take a higher dose.... and as WilsoInAus suggested, I would ask for a 1,000 mg tablets with at least a 90 day supply to start.  As for pain, you may want to ask your doctor for a Rx of Zovirax ointment.... it contains acyclovir and the ointment form calms the sores down and reduces friction.... it should lessen the pain down there. As for diet, many people, myself included, learn what foods often act as triggers for outbreaks.  I can tell you from experience that the following are big outbreak triggers for me:   1. Too much caffeine (I've basically stopped coffee and have learned to enjoy a variety of decaf teas) 2. Any kind of nuts - including corn and even popcorn 3. Chocolate 4. Too much alcohol - particularly red wines  5. If possible, avoid any kind of steroids/immunosuppressants like prednisone in high doses.... anything that suppresses your immune system will give the virus free rein to run amuck - I learned this the hard way! 6, Stress.... although easier said than done, it will help with your overall health.  Studies show that stress is a common HSV outbreak trigger.... try to find a way to lower your stress levels. 7. lack of sleep.... personally, if I get less than 6  hours of sleep this often leads to an outbreak within a day or two.... work at getting a good 7-8 hours of solid sleep each night (I often use melatonin to help here). Some people find certain vitamins that boost the immune system, like zinc, help with overall healing and can lessen the severity of outbreaks and possibly prevent some outbreaks.  I personally take a number of antiviral/anti-inflammatory/anti-oxidant herbs/vitamins not so much for my HSV2 but for overall health (I don't have the healthiest of diets so, I feel I need to supplement to offset my lousy diet).  A google search of supplements that help with herpes will provide you with a long list of vitamins/herbs that may be of benefit but, try not to get carried away - many/most won't make much, if any, difference.... but, you can always experiment. As WilsoInAus also mentioned, a healthy diet is likely your best option. I should also mention that while some find vitamin C to be helpful, I found it to have the opposite effect.... the more I took the more it seemed to provoke outbreaks.   Things are always the toughest after initial infection.... it's going to get better, trust me.  Stick with the antiviral meds daily, try not to obsess on the fact you've contracted this virus, and try to avoid some of those triggers relating to outbreaks.  With time the number of outbreaks starts to decline and when you do have an outbreak, they will become less virulent. As WilsoInAus mentioned, a lot of your achiness, pain and overall flu-like symptoms are related to the fact your immune system is adjusting to this virus.... these lousy symptoms are just your immune system in action working to do its best to fight this virus... with time these symptoms will also lessen and disappear.   I hope this helps in some way.... please let us know if you have more questions.... and remember, go easy on yourself right now.... turn to those things in your life that calm you and also distract you from obsessing over the virus situation.  You are going to be just fine.... just give yourself some time to get past this initial unpleasant phase.... it will get better, I promise.    
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