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facingreality, sam1143 is right. Don't commit sucide ok???i'm infected 4 years ago and i'm still alive and beaming away everyday.I know it's very hard to accept it initially but you will eventually..

Tell her after. Explain everything in detail. This will not come between your marriage as HSV 1 isn't really a big deal, in fact, HSV really isn't a big deal. It is pretty much like flu. How com

Hi there, I'm Malaysian from KL. I was having my first OB three months ago and almost commit suicide during day 2 after the doctor said "most probably" is herpes. The doctor did not performed a blo

hey mobil, don't frown... you'll be alright! i read this quote somewhere and it always motivates me : "as long as you're breathing, you're not failing"

I am sure many has it, not all talks about it and the rest, either not aware of it or just don't care about it (we wouldn't be where we are, if everyone's being honest now, would we?) but after the depression and denial, you'll come to accept life goes on... things may be a little different now, but life do goes on... just look at the natural disasters, accidents and more chronic illnesses that are going on around us everyday, should be thankful we still live to see another day, and hopefully long enough to see a cure someday :) *pats* mobil

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hi "oh wow" on what reading we should be getting second opinion :???:

does it mean that you're alright?

Yes, I am free from HSV 1 & HSV 2. I have done several tests in 2011 in different labs and I can say I had false positive in my first report.

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Yeap being depress will do you no good, thanks for the nice phrase Mystique, i feel much better after reading it :D.

Congratulation on your result ohwow, with it i hope you learn a very valuable lesson ;). Stay safe always buddy.

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Indeed. I do learn a valuable lesson. Again, I urge you all to get 2nd opinion. I have also learn that chances of getting false positive is very high. Please consult from the doctor. This is to understand yourself better and to protect yourself and other people. I swear I will not go to BX again for the rest of my life.

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Indeed. I do learn a valuable lesson. Again, I urge you all to get 2nd opinion. I have also learn that chances of getting false positive is very high. Please consult from the doctor. This is to understand yourself better and to protect yourself and other people. I swear I will not go to BX again for the rest of my life.

Yes 2nd opinion is a must, preferably in a different lab.

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thing is, i feel local gp is not too knowledgeable towards h related issues, sorry about my statement, cause I've went several during what i suspect "ob" ... but all of these gp, gynae tell you firmly, what i had are not ob, but when blood test come back, the bx lab doc even claim weird statements saying (your igg1 index is showing 0.9 = equivocal, might be due to the influence by igg2's index, but then again it could be false positive result) and i was like wth? i thought they are two different thing all together, gosh...

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Information i got from my doctor is that IgM ang IgG is a type of antibody. A person who just recently been infected with HSV will have their report shown something like this:

IgM = 0.02

IgG = 1.82

If that particular person were to test for a result again maybe after a year or two, the result will look something like this:

IgM = 1.50

IgG = 0.02 (not during OB) or 1.82 (during OB).

Note: numbers is there to show + or -, anything below 0.9 is -, above is +.

Which means, IgG antibody will be high during OB and low when HSV is dormant, IgM will always be + after a period of time being infected.

Hope this helps :D

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thing is, i feel local gp is not too knowledgeable towards h related issues, sorry about my statement, cause I've went several during what i suspect "ob" ... but all of these gp, gynae tell you firmly, what i had are not ob, but when blood test come back, the bx lab doc even claim weird statements saying (your igg1 index is showing 0.9 = equivocal, might be due to the influence by igg2's index, but then again it could be false positive result) and i was like wth? i thought they are two different thing all together, gosh...

Hmm try a skin doctor, dermatologist. Since HSV is a skin virus, they might know more about it.

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Your doctor is so wrong for all the statement (ok, I just agree only 1 statement). He need to educate himself on herpes. If you do research yourself, you will not agree for what your doctor said.

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:/ okay, this is getting confusing... mobil, if the index gets high and low from time to time (assuming not all ppl have ob all the time), other than symptoms, how can one conclude that he/she really do have h ?

ohwow, does it mean that you don't have any symptoms as well ?

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:/ okay, this is getting confusing... mobil, if the index gets high and low from time to time (assuming not all ppl have ob all the time), other than symptoms, how can one conclude that he/she really do have h ?

ohwow, does it mean that you don't have any symptoms as well ?

Thanks god that I don't have any symptoms and I have done like 7 tests on this things and the last 6 tests show negative result. The specialist concluded that I don't have the virus.

Knowledge is power. Everyone should educate themselves on the herpes virus.

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@mystique, yeah it is confusing. I guess the IgM will always be positive after a period of time, 3 months maybe but your IgG will go up and down.

I need to do more research on this ;). So far all my research effort goes towards l-lysine, herpes diet and relationship with herpes. None goes to "how to read your result" since i am 100% sure i got HSV :embarassed:.

Just wondering, anyone change their diet or you can just eat anything and not worry about OB?

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igms are never accurate.but the igg always is.always make sure your doctor gives you a igg.i was diagnosed with an igg febuary of this year.and went to a different doctor to find out what type i have.the new doctor called me and told me i didn't even have H.turned out he did an igm which came out to be 0.69.and my igg where my doctor diagnosed me in febuary was 0.91.never never trust result from an igm

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igms are never accurate.but the igg always is.always make sure your doctor gives you a igg.i was diagnosed with an igg febuary of this year.and went to a different doctor to find out what type i have.the new doctor called me and told me i didn't even have H.turned out he did an igm which came out to be 0.69.and my igg where my doctor diagnosed me in febuary was 0.91.never never trust result from an igm

Yes. I agree with you. I just don't understand why some doctors are so ignorant.

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yes i had to do my own research to find out how undependable igms were and it upset me that i ended up getting one.i went to my second doctor only because i wanted to know what type i had.and he calls me and tells me i don't even have it and so i had to figure out what doctor gave me the igm and which one gave me the igg.it turned out the doctor that dianosed me was the one who gave me the igg.so i know i have it and am back to square one,trying to find out what type it is....i demanded a igg from my second doctor who got my results wrong so now im waitning on the results at last

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yes i had to do my own research to find out how undependable igms were and it upset me that i ended up getting one.i went to my second doctor only because i wanted to know what type i had.and he calls me and tells me i don't even have it and so i had to figure out what doctor gave me the igm and which one gave me the igg.it turned out the doctor that dianosed me was the one who gave me the igg.so i know i have it and am back to square one,trying to find out what type it is....i demanded a igg from my second doctor who got my results wrong so now im waitning on the results at last

Sorry you have to go through all this. Some doctors are as clueless as us when it comes to HSV :(.

I remembered my first doctor visit, i was paranoid and ask to have Syphilis, HSV1, HSV2, HIV, Gonorrhea and Hepatitis B all tested, was rooting for syphilis because it is curable. Luckily the doctor calm me down and tested me for HIV and HSV only. Still, a week later i am back and demanded all other STD to me tested :embarassed:.

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its always good to get tested for all stds.there are alot of them out there.and as much as nobody wants to have any of them,ignorance is not bliss in that situation.it was sad that i knew more than my doctor did when he was telling me so called facts about hsv.i have been living with it almost a year and have done ALOT of my homework on it.i won't be going back to that doctor again.

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