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guy1968

Hi all,

I was just diagnosed last week with HSV1 - Oral.

I have an appointment this week with a doctor (specialist) of all infectious disease - I dont know what additional tests I can have done. Hopefully, I could learn more about what I have, how I can take care of myself and protect others.

If you have any questions - email me and I will ask for you. God bless you all and I hope if you're in physical or emotional distress that God will help you comfort.

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JBnATL

Education is key to accepting this virus. The more you know the more you will realize it is really no big deal. 80% of adults have herpes in one form or another and live totally normal lives.

I have had 1 & 2 for many years and hit has never stopped me from doing anything or anyone I wanted.

Many people have told me that getting herpes changed their lives for the better. They eat better, work out and are more selective in whom they date.

JB

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guy1968
Education is key to accepting this virus. The more you know the more you will realize it is really no big deal. 80% of adults have herpes in one form or another and live totally normal lives.

I have had 1 & 2 for many years and hit has never stopped me from doing anything or anyone I wanted.

Many people have told me that getting herpes changed their lives for the better. They eat better, work out and are more selective in whom they date.

JB

JB ... I like ur response - thanks... and you are right. I just quit smoking cigarettes and pot for good. I beg to differ though on your percentage... if 80% of Americans had it we'd be facing an epidemic... the number is mor like 20-25% ... An estimated 70 - 90% have been exposed.

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JBnATL

guy, look at my reply to your other post. When a doctor tells you you have been exposed it is a polite way of saying YOU HAVE HERPES.

mono, chicken pox, shingles, cold sores and genital herpes are all caused by the herpes virus. So 80% of adults have had one of those.

JB

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guy, look at my reply to your other post. When a doctor tells you you have been exposed it is a polite way of saying YOU HAVE HERPES.

mono, chicken pox, shingles, cold sores and genital herpes are all caused by the herpes virus. So 80% of adults have had one of those.

JB

I've never had a polite doctor. They tell you what's up and that's it. They don't sugar coat it. She did tell me however that I was taking it too harshly - That it is common.

It not a doctor telling me you were exposed. There is a defffernce from exposed and actually infected. _ You could sleep with someone who has HIV and not get it... you were exposed but not infected. it's in the definition of the word. Just look it up in the dictionary. In medical terms it means you were put at risk but not infected. I am talking about all the articles out there that say an estimated 90% of Americans have been exposed to HSV1 ... That sounds right... Based on medical records, the populations, they use stats to come up with an educated guess ... But I don't believe so many people are infected. I read a copy of Time magazine today that has it at 20 - 25% HSV1 and another 12% HSV2

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RealisticGal
I've never had a polite doctor. They tell you what's up and that's it. They don't sugar coat it. She did tell me however that I was taking it too harshly - That it is common.

It not a doctor telling me you were exposed. There is a defffernce from exposed and actually infected. _ You could sleep with someone who has HIV and not get it... you were exposed but not infected. it's in the definition of the word. Just look it up in the dictionary. In medical terms it means you were put at risk but not infected. I am talking about all the articles out there that say an estimated 90% of Americans have been exposed to HSV1 ... That sounds right... Based on medical records, the populations, they use stats to come up with an educated guess ... But I don't believe so many people are infected. I read a copy of Time magazine today that has it at 20 - 25% HSV1 and another 12% HSV2

Maybe none of your doctors have ever been polite. But there are some docs who are. And there are some who simply don't like the emotional reaction they tend to get when delivering the news that their patient has herpes. So a lot of doctors have a tendency to word things in a way that their patients are likely to take without getting so emotional. Yes, this might be called "sugar-coating" or speaking euphemistically or whatever. I agree. And the fact is, it does happen. Just because it has not happened to you, does not mean it does not happen.

I'm not just making this up, guy1968, and neither is JBnATL. Not only have we read MANY stories here from members who had exactly that happen to them, but it is even published in a book written by one of the foremost authorities on HSV. Terri Warren, RN/ANP, is owner of the Westover Heights Clinic and author of the book "The Good News About the Bad News: Herpes: Everything You Need to Know." Here is a pertinent snippet from the book:

I tested positive for HSV 2 by antibody test at a value of greater than

5, but I’ve never had any herpes symptoms. My doctor says I’ve just been

“exposed,” but I think I’m really infected. Which is it, exposed or infected?

And what does that mean in terms of future partners?

Since your HSV 2 antibody test is firmly positive, you’re infected. Obviously,

you’ve also been exposed, which means that you’re both infected and infectious

to others. Now that you know you’re infected with HSV 2, you may actually

start to recognize symptoms you missed before. But even if you don’t, consider

yourself infectious to others.

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Maybe none of your doctors have ever been polite. But there are some docs who are. And there are some who simply don't like the emotional reaction they tend to get when delivering the news that their patient has herpes. So a lot of doctors have a tendency to word things in a way that their patients are likely to take without getting so emotional. Yes, this might be called "sugar-coating" or speaking euphemistically or whatever. I agree. And the fact is, it does happen. Just because it has not happened to you, does not mean it does not happen.

I'm not just making this up, guy1968, and neither is JBnATL. Not only have we read MANY stories here from members who had exactly that happen to them, but it is even published in a book written by one of the foremost authorities on HSV. Terri Warren, RN/ANP, is owner of the Westover Heights Clinic and author of the book "The Good News About the Bad News: Herpes: Everything You Need to Know." Here is a pertinent snippet from the book:

I tested positive for HSV 2 by antibody test at a value of greater than

5, but I’ve never had any herpes symptoms. My doctor says I’ve just been

“exposed,” but I think I’m really infected. Which is it, exposed or infected?

And what does that mean in terms of future partners?

Since your HSV 2 antibody test is firmly positive, you’re infected. Obviously,

you’ve also been exposed, which means that you’re both infected and infectious

to others. Now that you know you’re infected with HSV 2, you may actually

start to recognize symptoms you missed before. But even if you don’t, consider

yourself infectious to others.

Sounds like what I said - just exposed is not the same as exposed and infected. Obviously if you are infected, you have been exposed - "that goes without saying"... but you could be exposed and not infected. Two different things "exposed" and "infected"... and to go even further... I don't know why we are debating how a doctor may go about telling someone how they got herpes LOL... This conversation has nothing to do with how the doctor told me... I read it! So the doctor had nothing to do with it, But if you want to shoot down anything I say well... As far as the doctor thing... doctors are pretty straight forward given my experience... I've experience the exact opposite; they tell you like it is so that you are aware of your problem. As a matter of fact it is commonly said, even in movies and books themselves... that they're cold, they come out and just tell you. Especially, those who have been doctors for a long time. I do not agree with that statement, at the very least - it is a generalization.

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Sounds like what I said - just exposed is not the same as exposed and infected. Obviously if you are infected, you have been exposed - "that goes without saying"... but you could be exposed and not infected. Two different things "exposed" and "infected"... and to go even further... I don't know why we are debating how a doctor may go about telling someone how they got herpes LOL... This conversation has nothing to do with how the doctor told me... I read it! So the doctor had nothing to do with it, But if you want to shoot down anything I say well... As far as the doctor thing... doctors are pretty straight forward given my experience... I've experience the exact opposite; they tell you like it is so that you are aware of your problem. As a matter of fact it is commonly said, even in movies and books themselves... that they're cold, they come out and just tell you. Especially, those who have been doctors for a long time. I do not agree with that statement, at the very least - it is a generalization.

You don't agree with my statement????

NO WAY!!! I'm shocked!!!!! :hmpf:

guy1968, either you are purposely being so obtuse that you refuse to understand the points we have been attempting to clarify for you, or you simply like to argue for the sake of argument. It seems you would not agree with anything anyone here has to say.

Bored now...

:bebored:

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JBnATL
... but you could be exposed and not infected. Two different things "exposed" and "infected"..

There is no magical test out there that can tell you what you have been "exposed" to when you don't have it. There is no virus out there that leaves a greeting card saying "Herpes was here". When a doctor tells a person they were exposed it most likely means they are asymptomatic. Asymptomatic people, while maybe never having to suffer from an outbreak do have the virus and are capable of passing it to others.

And we are still waiting on that scan.

JB

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There is no magical test out there that can tell you what you have been "exposed" to when you don't have it. There is no virus out there that leaves a greeting card saying "Herpes was here". When a doctor tells a person they were exposed it most likely means they are asymptomatic. Asymptomatic people, while maybe never having to suffer from an outbreak do have the virus and are capable of passing it to others.

And we are still waiting on that scan.

JB

I am not scanning shit. I posted word for word my results. Find them why would I lie. As far as exposed, infected... My doctor didnt use exposed to give me the results.... he said you've been infected with HSV1. Exposed and Infected are two different things. You could sleep with someone who has HIV - You are in essence "Exposed" to it. However, you may not be or "get" infected. Use www.dictionary.com man, it helps.

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JBnATL

Dude I know the definition, but you have to take the context into account in this situation. A doctor has no way of knowing what you have been exposed to, he can only tell you what you have. There is no magic test you can take that tells them what you have been exposed to but did not contract.

When a doctor says "You have been exposed", he is not using the literal dictionary term because he has no clue what you were exposed to. He is using the sugar-coated term for exposed meaning "YOU HAVE HERPES".

JB

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Dude I know the definition, but you have to take the context into account in this situation. A doctor has no way of knowing what you have been exposed to, he can only tell you what you have. There is no magic test you can take that tells them what you have been exposed to but did not contract.

When a doctor says "You have been exposed", he is not using the literal dictionary term because he has no clue what you were exposed to. He is using the sugar-coated term for exposed meaning "YOU HAVE HERPES".

JB

DUDE - HE DID NOT SAY I HAD BEEN EXPOSED - HE SAID INFECTED... The exposed thing came about articles specifying that 90% of Amricans have been exposed. That doesn't mean the are infected.

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JBnATL

One last time. THERE IS NO WAY TO TELL SOMEONE HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO SOMETHING. In this context, exposed means they have been infected.

JB

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DUDE - HE DID NOT SAY I HAD BEEN EXPOSED - HE SAID INFECTED... The exposed thing came about articles specifying that 90% of Amricans have been exposed. That doesn't mean the are infected.

This is a quote from the American Social Health Associations website:

How common is oral herpes?

About 50 percent to 80 percent of the adult population in the United States has oral herpes, with as many as 90% having the virus by age 50. Most people contract oral herpes when they are children by receiving a kiss from a friend or relative.

See that? "has oral herpes", not "exposed" but "has"

http://www.ashastd.org/herpes/herpes_learn_oralherpes.cfm

JB

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This is a quote from the American Social Health Associations website:

How common is oral herpes?

About 50 percent to 80 percent of the adult population in the United States has oral herpes, with as many as 90% having the virus by age 50. Most people contract oral herpes when they are children by receiving a kiss from a friend or relative.

See that? "has oral herpes", not "exposed" but "has"

http://www.ashastd.org/herpes/herpes_learn_oralherpes.cfm

JB

OK. I don't want to argue. See my post. I went to the specialist. See the stats I got from him.

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DJ5

I can't believe I read all that but guy1968, you're an idiot. They aren't talking about how your doctor told you that you have herpes.

They are just saying that some doctors tell people they have been "exposed" when they test positive for herpes because they have never shown symptoms. By saying this, the doctor is not giving the appropriate response.

The only correct response when someone tests positive for herpes is: "you have herpes".

Done

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I can't believe I read all that but guy1968, you're an idiot. They aren't talking about how your doctor told you that you have herpes.

They are just saying that some doctors tell people they have been "exposed" when they test positive for herpes because they have never shown symptoms. By saying this, the doctor is not giving the appropriate response.

The only correct response when someone tests positive for herpes is: "you have herpes".

Done

No sir, you are the idiot because it had nothing to do with what the doctor told me. I don't even know why it even went there. I was pointing what I read in an article; that approximately 90% of Americans are "exposed"... not "infected"... "exposed" ... moron! Two different things. Now that I remember clearly my doctor told me "Everything looks good however, you tested positive for HSV1". Now take an English 101 class bud.

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notstrong

Just saying guy1968 seems that you are angry with this, and let me tell you lashing out on people here is not going to help you!

Fact being you have it, live with it, why fight with everyone that could be a support for you. Fighting with everyone will leave you a very lonley person in the end.

Just saying that is all! Stop being rude to people, that are just being nice and trying to help you through this!!

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Just saying guy1968 seems that you are angry with this, and let me tell you lashing out on people here is not going to help you!

Fact being you have it, live with it, why fight with everyone that could be a support for you. Fighting with everyone will leave you a very lonley person in the end.

Just saying that is all! Stop being rude to people, that are just being nice and trying to help you through this!!

I agree but if you look at the post before yours, you'll see that DJ5 called me an idiot so... i just gave him a bit of his\her own medicine :)

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notstrong

Are we back to being in elementary school? ... cause he said she said is exactly that!

grow up and accept what you have and go on living but stop lashing out at people that are here for suport to one another and also you!

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Are we back to being in elementary school? ... cause he said she said is exactly that!

grow up and accept what you have and go on living but stop lashing out at people that are here for suport to one another and also you!

don't dish it out if you can't take it. especially if ur dealing with someone who could run circles around you

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don't dish it out if you can't take it. especially if ur dealing with someone who could run circles around you

Who says you can run circles around them? why do you think you are better and smarter then others... you said earlier about god... wow you are living proof why i don't believe!!!!

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Who says you can run circles around them? why do you think you are better and smarter then others... you said earlier about god... wow you are living proof why i don't believe!!!!

i said "you" meaning DJ5 .. dont put words in my infected mouth ... anyone who read this thread and didnt realize i was not talking about any doctor is a ding bat. the post had to do with the difference of being exposed or infected ... not what a doctor said or didn't - an article I read, where it said 80% of Americans are "exposed" - you can be exposed and not infected ... vice versa... you can be exposed and by that exposure be infected. hey, i got a good consultation from an infectious disease specialist yesterday - this is new to me... i have some members here that i connected with who's judgement i trust... i don't a moron to go through a thread i stared what? - 4 - 5 days ago and call me an idiot... i could run circles around him ... if he had any brains he'd realize that this thread is DEAD! Like I said... Don't dish it out if you can't take it. End of conversation!

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DJ5

Ok, I'm sorry I said you were an "idiot", I usually don't say things like that, but after reading your posts/reply's it was what came to mind. If you come here looking for info, maybe don't argue with everyone that gives you some or tries to help, just a thought.

Here are the rough stats: HSV-1 50-80% INFECTED

HSV-2 15-25% INFECTED

Using the word "exposed" is not the correct word to be using when talking about herpes, whether it is in an article, from a doctor, etc... That is the point being made in this thread. And yes, everyone knows their definitions which you learnt in "English 101". And please don't "run circles around me", I'm not sure if I could handle it.

There is a lot of info on this site and many people willing to help, but only if you let them.

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