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Hi All,

I've had a cold and because of it my lips were cracked and sore. I didn't think it was a cold sore it was just sore lips from being ill. I gave my boyfriend oral sex on Friday. On Sunday the bumps came up and the coldsore pain started and I had on my lip a definite whopper coming up.

My question is-

How likely is this to have been passed on to my BF?- given the oral sex was two days previous and I'm still not sure if I just had sore lips from being ill then (he does not have HSV1 or 2)

If I have infected my BF genitally with HSV1 how long before symptoms will begin to show?

Thanks in advance for all info. I'm so careful when I have a cold sore this has really worried me as I do not want to infect my partner, I won't even let him touch a glass I've drank from when I have a cold sore.

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      Hey @Antoinette63 you do absolutely nothing. If infected with HSV-2, then the initial outbreak would have occurred within days of the infections. Symptoms after 4 months are not really likely to have been from that episode.  If she does have a recent infection of herpes, then it will be from her new boyfriend!
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      Hang on @viralfrog let’s be rational here. The male body can only usefully metabolise 100mg of vitamin C a day. Any excess does not have any known impact on the body as it doesn’t actually get to where you might be thinking it goes. It goes out via your kidneys, potentially causing toxic effects. The real trick with vitamin C is making sure there is a good flow moving through your intestines such that your body can metabolise the full 100mg easily. To achieve this, you are much better off taking a tablet of about 250mg with each meal. Anything more than 2g a day of vitamin C is not only useless but commences a strain process on your body that may include outcomes including kidney stones. 
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