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Valtrex and gay people

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Vidhya

"It is not known if VALTREX reduces the risk of spreading genital herpes in same-sex couples."

You can read this in the Valtrex website. I wonder why, after so many years, decades, funding all sorts of experiments in the University of Washington and their sponsored doctors (Wald, Corey, etc), the Valtrex/Glaxo people never thought of testing if their miracle product was in any way effective among gay people. "It is not known..." they write.

http://www.valtrex.com/

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osten

Given the way these antivirals lessen the chance of transmission by inhibiting viral shedding, it's almost certain that it does work for homosexual sex the same way it does for heterosexual sex. They just can't say it because they haven't demonstrated it in clinical studies.

Those sorts of studies are not cheap, and I personally would rather they didn't waste time and money proving something we know almost for sure to be true, just for the sake of being able to remove that disclaimer.

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Vidhya
Given the way these antivirals lessen the chance of transmission by inhibiting viral shedding, it's almost certain that it does work for homosexual sex the same way it does for heterosexual sex. They just can't say it because they haven't demonstrated it in clinical studies.

Those sorts of studies are not cheap, and I personally would rather they didn't waste time and money proving something we know almost for sure to be true, just for the sake of being able to remove that disclaimer.

Hi osten, always glad to read your comments. I find it amazing that such study does not exist. Those doctors mentioned are very active trying to get funds from all sources - big pharma companies are the major contributors, but also the US health agencies -in order to prove their theories, that come in all shapes and sizes, as you'll fin in medical databases. One recent Wald study was to collect data from the Internet (!!! yes) in order to prove her theory that telling patients about the "incurability" of herpes would not be too damaging psychologically in the long term. She found from reading medical reports on the Internet that not all the patients become suicidal, and that after a while, they recover from the "shock". So, she disagreed with reports that advised doctors not to make of herpes a big deal or not to include it in a standard STD test. People should be encouraged to test, test and test, even if they have no symptoms, and, once diagnosed, even if you have nothing, you should take the daily Valtrex, she argues. So the "morbidity" involved in this, whatever that is, is acceptable. There are lots of other crazy studies by these people, so I'm surprised this one was not tried yet.

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You should post that study (the one regarding testing) in the Everything Else Herpes Forum.

It could make for some interesting conversation!

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Vidhya

Give me a hand with that when you have the time, osten. It's just one of the hundreds written by the lady, and I remember it from some medical database a while ago (keywords psychosocial, herpes, morbidity) and this time it just involved Internet research about the benefits of telling people to get tested for HSV2, even though some specialists argued it was alarming and useless. She found out that, no matter what psychological torture widespread testing might provoke, most people did not kill themselves, but moved on. So, she argued, that morbidity stuff was acceptable, and people with HSV2, even without symptoms, should be "educated" to tell their partners and start daily Valtrex (for life) right away. Recently, she and the rest of her group came to the conclusion that even expensive high doses of daily Valtrex were not enough to prevent tranmission, and urged more money to be invested in "more potent" medicine - that AICURIS stuff. I'll post it as soon as I find it.

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hatsu

you shouldn't worry too much about spreading the virus to other people, because there's no study of them testing it on gay people. if straight people can do it without much worry, so can us. I'm intrigued about this mysterious woman and her studies. when you find it please share it. I want to read what she has to say.

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I can honestly say a study such as this is just nuts. Why would an antiviral work differently for one who prefers same sex partner as opposed to one who doesn't? Is that something new that droctors are saying like " your antivirals may not work because of who you love" ?? Crazy I tell, just crazy. Just my thoughts when I noticed this post.

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