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So, this isn't really about herpes, so much as it relates to this forum, and my brain, and how it thinks bizarre stuff.

Does anyone else hear the song "Technical Foul" from "8 Crazy Nights" when the two small elderly people sing to Adam Sandler's character, when they enter the forum, or is it just me?

And juuuust so this isn't removed.... Here's a question that actually makes it fit in this forum. But really, I'm more curious about the top question. So does anyone here know about what time herpes originated on earth historically, I know it is derived from a greek word, but the reason why I ask is because I was watching a documentary, and they were able to prove that syphilis (sp?) went back to the time of Mt. Vesuvius blowing in Pompeii. I guess I'm curious how far we've been able to trace herpes back in human DNA. Do/can we test new archeological skull findings for herpes by their dental records? It'd be interesting if herpes and our kind had always coexisted, and evolved with our species, or if there was a patient zero.

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Herps has been around for thousands of years. Noone really knew what it was. It's why I believe I now see many, married like me for decades, they say I have been diagnosed with herpes how's that possible? Then they follow up by saying my spouse has gotten fever blisters . They don't know those sun sore, are cold sores and are herpes simplex type 1 usually.

To answer the first question, I hear black eye peas songs when I log in, it's what I was listening to when I first joined :gigglegiggle: . Hugs honey Ace

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Lol, thanks!!! Hahah, so eventually I'll stop hearing the 8 crazy nights song. Lol, that's really good to know.

Yeah, I think my question is more of a herpes historical question, then technical, science-type of question. :/ But I still find it kind of curious to think about, whether or not we can trace how far back in human history how long we've been passing down herpes. In a weird way, it's almost a genetic trait. Meh, maybe I'm the only one who thinks so.

So your spouse had the cold sores, and gave you herpes? That's too bad, It's so hard to tell with some people if they even have it! Thankfully I didn't give it to my ex, I was with him for 8 months, and I didn't know it at the time, but I was infected with herpes by a partner before, (I figured this out now since my diagnosis of being herpes positive), but despite unprotected sex, he's fine. I guess it's all just a matter of chance. than statistical odds depending on your perspective. *hugs*

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No fire, my ex hubby gave me genital herps. We were newly married and he was a Chester I didn't know :dontknow: . I was 26 a new bride in love blah blah blah.... End results I divorced. Waited two years. Met my now husband and had a daughter and will celebrate 23 years come month after next. The ex.died., infected 5 more wives, three were my.ex best friends (who chastised me when I told them of h) and I'm quite certain he screwed tons of others. They called after he died boohooing he gave me h!. I just say you slept.with my hubby and now you want my sympathies? I laugh and hung the phone up.

I've lived a great life with h . It gave me what not having h didn't. A home. A family and my own little bundle of joy who is.apart of me, my only living biological family :) . God gave me the tough stuff first, he prepared me for life I think. Today I'm stronger, happier and still Hott and positive :gigglegiggle: . When I die they will have to surgically remove my smile. :) . Hugs sweety Ace :tee:

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Fire, thank you sweety. It's not beautiful, but it's life and shit happens and learn and grow! :) . Getting h is my blessing, it could.have been something really bad he gave me, but thankfully it was herps. I've learned a lot over these past 25 years. I've survived cancer , twice also had a miscarriage and had my gallbladder poison me :( . But thankfully I'm here to say having herps is better than all those other horrible experiences I've gone through. Nice meeting you by the way :hithere: Hugs, Acey

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I've read that the oldest known description of Herpes was in hieroglyphics in ancient Egypt. They had a relatively vibrant medical system which also had the first identification of cancer (though neither were understood as diseases until Ancient Greece) and there have been medical interventions for either only in the last century.

Puts bashing Valtrex as not good enough in context considering billions of people for at least the last 10,000 years just had to "deal with it"

Of course, in support of those who try something because it seems like it could work there was a Persian queen who likely saved her own life by having a slave cut off her malignant breast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atossa

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