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Dr. Halford Confirms Human Trial "is happening"


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On October 27th on the main page of his website (liveherpesvaccine.com), he responded to this comment:

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Hi Bill,
If you get some time , Can you please update with the current progress on the vaccine trials & how your company is progressing for it as you mentioned in previous posts.

Regards,
Optimistic

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Hi Optimistic,

I am very sorry that I am late in delivering on this promise. I am uber busy at the moment, but I will try to put together a short synopsis of where things stand in the next few weeks. What I can say for now is that this IS happening, which is part of the reason that spare time is so hard to come by.

– Bill H.

 

I've also spoken to him privately and can confirm that a human trial is soon to take place. Woo! 

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Great news, thanks @throwawayday345

I have lost track of who is researching what and how and when. Is Halford aiming for a cure or therapeutic/functional cure? I guess this is a good thing losing track of the research, means a lot is going on to destroy it! The race is definitely on!

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3 hours ago, Sillybrain2 said:

Great news, thanks @throwawayday345

I have lost track of who is researching what and how and when. Is Halford aiming for a cure or therapeutic/functional cure? I guess this is a good thing losing track of the research, means a lot is going on to destroy it! The race is definitely on!

I mean everyone is trying to create the best possible vaccine but no one knows until it's tested.  At the moment since it's a live vaccine initially it'll be looked at as a therapeutic vaccine, though no doubt it's probably extremely effective as a preventative vaccine.  First though he has to show it's therapeutic potential & safety to pave the way for preventative usage.  

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Yes! Halford is one of the few people who is not playing around. He is not farting about with small incremental improvements. He is actually going for a cure. 

This is amazing news. I have more faith in Halford than anyone else, by far. No one cares, but Halford. 

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6 hours ago, Herbfresh said:

Yes! Halford is one of the few people who is not playing around. He is not farting about with small incremental improvements. He is actually going for a cure. 

This is amazing news. I have more faith in Halford than anyone else, by far. No one cares, but Halford. 

You know that Halford's vaccine is not a cure right?

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6 hours ago, Herbfresh said:

Yes! Halford is one of the few people who is not playing around. He is not farting about with small incremental improvements. He is actually going for a cure. 

This is amazing news. I have more faith in Halford than anyone else, by far. No one cares, but Halford. 

I just like the fact you used the term 'farting around' it made me laugh and is the perfect descriptor. 

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On Tue Nov 10 2015 08:20:05 GMT-0800, Herbfresh said:

Yes! Halford is one of the few people who is not playing around. He is not farting about with small incremental improvements. He is actually going for a cure. 

This is amazing news. I have more faith in Halford than anyone else, by far. No one cares, but Halford. 

Herbfresh... just curious, when you say, "no one cares but Halford" - what do you base that off of ?

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On 11/10/2015, 4:20:05, Herbfresh said:

 

 

On 11/10/2015, 11:09:34, HopefulOne2013 said:

You know that Halford's vaccine is not a cure right?

I highly doubt there will be a "cure" for the next 20 years so this is irrelevant. 

What is relevant is a functional cure, aka: Becoming asymptomatic and not transmitting.

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On Fri Nov 13 2015 09:40:31 GMT-0800, lexyz22 said:

 

I highly doubt there will be a "cure" for the next 20 years so this is irrelevant. 

What is relevant is a functional cure, aka: Becoming asymptomatic and not transmitting.

Halford states on his own site that he doesn't know if there is any therapeutic value....

Therefore, once a safe and effective HSV-2 preventative vaccine is identified, it will be relevant to determine if it has potential to also serve as a therapeutic HSV-2 vaccine.

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On 11/10/2015, 3:09:34, HopefulOne2013 said:

You know that Halford's vaccine is not a cure right?

@VVK

Looks like @HopefulOne2013 may have pointed out that Halford is not developing a cure.  Will you look to reprimand him also ?

Again, Halfords own website in his own words say.....  This latter application of a HSV-2 vaccine (i.e., to reduce symptoms in those who already carry the HSV-2 virus) would be more experimental, and less of a sure thing than a preventative HSV-2 vaccine. 

 

Really, am I the enemy here simply because I copied text from Halford's own website that stated he was not developing the vaccine as a treatment and it would be more "experimental, and less of a sure thing" ?

If you people want to proclaim that Halford is the Messiah and savior of the Herpes world, go ahead.  I don't care what you believe.  But shouldn't you offer people so desperate for hope, a true sense of reality... and let them hear another side.  Isn't that what a message board is supposed to do.... which is offer discussion.

Again, realize that I don't gain anything if Halford fails.  I want a cure and treatment also.  I just don't understand the blind faith and unwavering support for this guy, or Ella Dawson.... like they have done so much for us and are our only hope.  The reality is so different.

So how is your (and so many others) one sided biased statements with such conviction and certainty - that this Halford guy who is a 20 year researcher that no major pharma or biotech who wants to partner with him, and who hasn't even entered P1 trials....  any different from my opposite perspective, which simply copied his website statement saying he is not working to develop a cure ? 

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I'm perfectly fine with a vaccine that protects my current (and, perhaps future) partners from acquiring HSV from me. If Dr. Halford can do that with his vaccine, then that's great and a major win in my books. If it also quiets symptoms in even a quarter of those already infected, that's a bonus win in my books.  Your qualm with him going after a preventative vaccine first rather than a therapy is mildly amusing. Watch out for those hundreds and hundreds of Halford fans who believe that he's going to accomplish both. Hundreds and hundreds of messages thundering deafeningly over your own.

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28 minutes ago, VVK said:

I'm perfectly fine with a vaccine that protects my current (and, perhaps future) partners from acquiring HSV from me. If Dr. Halford can do that with his vaccine, then that's great and a major win in my books. If it also quiets symptoms in even a quarter of those already infected, that's a bonus win in my books.  Your qualm with him going after a preventative vaccine first rather than a therapy is mildly amusing. Watch out for those hundreds and hundreds of Halford fans who believe that he's going to accomplish both. Hundreds and hundreds of messages thundering deafeningly over your own.

Again I ask the question... is your job as a moderator to attack, taunt and provoke ?

Why do you feel so compelled to continually seek out my posts and critique them ?

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1 hour ago, tom343 said:

Halford talking about ending herpes :)

Sigh, I remember watching this a while ago.    This is the problem that it's only a insult to someone's sexuality.   Damnit halford, use terms like a decrease in quality of life when you're trying to convince the public how important this is.   An insult to someone's mental-emotional stability and comfort. You say chronic lifelong infection, so why not elaborate to the public why that isn't wonderful.

 

Someones sexual lust brought me into this situation and I doubt sexual lust will bring me out.  Then again, there are drugs like Viagra and cialis on the market.

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By the time Halford starts his trial, other trials for vaccines and crispr will have already started. Halford is old news. He isn't going to help people with herpes. The world of science is passing him by every single day. 

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7 minutes ago, HopefulOne2013 said:

By the time Halford starts his trial, other trials for vaccines and crispr will have already started. Halford is old news. He isn't going to help people with herpes. The world of science is passing him by every single day. 

The way it's looking right now. Crispr is our only hope for a pure cure. We can have Genocea or HSV529 to hold us up until someone gets HSV 2 trials with Crispr to happen.

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1 minute ago, dont quit! said:

The way it's looking right now. Crispr is our only hope for a pure cure. We can have Genocea or HSV529 to hold us up until someone gets HSV 2 trials with Crispr to happen.

Yep. I read that Jennifer Doudna was awarded a patent on Crispr the other day. Things are changing fast in biotechnology. Crispr will change everything. Unfortunately vaccines to treat HSV will become a thing of the past.

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22 minutes ago, HopefulOne2013 said:

By the time Halford starts his trial, other trials for vaccines and crispr will have already started. Halford is old news. He isn't going to help people with herpes. The world of science is passing him by every single day. 

I disagree.  I think that halford is great for those who don't have HSV.

We can speculate out the wazoo about how it'd for someone with HSV but I think it'd just be another therapeutic vaccine that wouldn't anything to a virus that is still replicating.

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