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Chances of getting infected?


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Hi everyone, first of all, I would like to thank you all for your time to read this, I hope someone can assess my exposure and all of your opinions are most welcomed.

I had an exposure about 21 weeks ago from today, I had an intercourse with a SW, we both kissed and I was given a brief (less than 1 minute) oral sex, I only managed to make 1 unprotected vaginal penetration and penis went limp, I was unable to get fully erected due to tiredness, since I could not go on we stopped right after that. Apparently I was already having a fever and it kicked in that night, I then recovered from the fever few days later.

I did a few HIV tests and results were all negative.

7 weeks - Rapid Test (hand prick), negative

11 weeks - ELISA HIV 1 and 2 (generation not given), negative

13 weeks - Same ELISA test as above, negative

I had posted my story, tests and results and was told that result from my last test were conclusive in another forum. It was a relief for me for awhile not until few days ago (21 weeks past exposure), I realized that I should have not only tested for HIV but other STD's as well, so I went to a testing lab and requested for STD screening, the nurse (I think?) that attended to me told me their standard STD screening package only includes 2 tests, the HIV 1 and 2 and the VDRL test. When asked about HSV 1 and 2 tests, she explained to me that they would normally only do the test if a person is first tested positive HIV or VDRL. In the end, I took 3 tests, HIV 1 and 2, VDRL and HSV 1 and 2. Blood was drawn and was told my results will be out in 3 working days.

After going through herpes forums I realized that there are possibilities of false-positive in HSV 1 and 2 blood tests, I started to feel worried. For your information, I have not encountered a single symptom from the day of exposure until now.

What are the chances of me getting HSV 1 or 2?

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Maybe you had HSV1 or HSV2 even before all of this, so get your test results back and see. You don't have any symptoms from this encounter, so the chances that you got HSV1 or HSV2 from this particular encounter are low..

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Thank you for replying, VVK, which is a relief for my as I have been worried about my upcoming test results. For the record, I have never notice any signs or symptoms even before this. I do not change partners too many times, this encounter with a SW is my first time, due to my carelessness, this had ended up being a painful experience and lesson for me.

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    • WilsoInAus
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    • CHT
      Hello DavidGua.... based on the two pictures, I'm not seeing anything that resembles a typical herpes outbreak.  I am not sure what those spots are on your penis.  Please have a doctor take a look and I'm sure you'll get a proper diagnosis.  Have you ever received an HSV antibody test (IgG)?  Again, I doubt your symptoms are herpes-related but, if you'd like some peace of mind, you could request the IgG antibody test for HSV2.   Best of luck.... let us know if you have any other questions/concerns.
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