New Stats show HPV Vaccine is Effective

[Evaluate]

I know this is a form about HSV but I think it's worth posting this news about HPV and the effect the vaccine has had on the US population.

Data has finally came out showing that the HPV vaccine has helped dropped HPV rates dramatically in young women.  Admedus, with Ian Frazer, is testing a therapeutic HPV vaccine in the early stages of clinical trials.

Journal article: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2016/02/19/peds.2015-1968..info

Paper articles about it:

http://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/hpv-vaccine-success

https://www.good.is/articles/hpv-vaccine-proven-among-girls

[lexyz22]

Fantastic, great evidence for all the anti-vaccine idiots out there.

[Evaluate]

I agree. It's sad to see that more people aren't getting vaccinated, especially when it can save lives.

[Sanguine108]

As someone who used to work in pediatrics and administered vaccines, I think the major problem is administering too many vaccines at once at such a young age.   Back when we were all young lil' chaps, the vaccine schedule wasn't so dense.

Personally, I'd appreciate it if they didn't put so many damn additives in the vaccines.

final note, flu vaccine is a worthless scam.

[Curioso]

It's great to believe a vax can save lives, until you look at the number of adverse reactions, including quite serious ones, long term ones, or fatal ones.  The HPV vaxes have been among the most dangerous vaxes for ARs that we have seen yet, paralleling the number of lives lost to cervical cancer.  ARs have included death, GBS, major CFS type disability and so on.  It only deals with a few of the strains of genital HPV, hence there must still be plenty of strains being spread. They have targeted the 3 or 4 strains only that they believe may be the most causative of cervical cancers.  Note also that 'nature abhors a vacuum' and removing one set of strains can allow another set to fill the gap or mutate and become similarly carcinogenic also.

The body defeats most HPV infections by itself inside 2 years.

If you receive the vax, you will still need to have pap smears for life, so that economic cost does not go away.

The vaccine may only confer protection for as little as 5 years, after which you would supposedly have to get risky booster after booster.

The best way of avoiding HPV is simply to use a condom, which is a harmless barrier method, not invasive internal medicine.

Parents in a number of countries are questioning the safety of the vax after witnessing many serious ARs in their children.  Ireland has REGRET, Denmark recently made a documentary about damaged girls from the HPV vax.

As usual, the pharmaceutical companies hope to be able to  write off ARs such as death, CFS or GBS as 'coincidence' or something that would happen to these otherwise fit, sporty girls, in the hope that no-one adds up the true cost to offset against the death rate from cervical cancer.

Edited February 25, 2016 by Curioso

[Evaluate]

4 hours ago, Curioso said:

It's great to believe a vax can save lives, until you look at the number of adverse reactions, including quite serious ones, long term ones, or fatal ones.  The HPV vaxes have been among the most dangerous vaxes for ARs that we have seen yet, paralleling the number of lives lost to cervical cancer.  ARs have included death, GBS, major CFS type disability and so on.  It only deals with a few of the strains of genital HPV, hence there must still be plenty of strains being spread. They have targeted the 3 or 4 strains only that they believe may be the most causative of cervical cancers.  Note also that 'nature abhors a vacuum' and removing one set of strains can allow another set to fill the gap or mutate and become similarly carcinogenic also.

The body defeats most HPV infections by itself inside 2 years.

If you receive the vax, you will still need to have pap smears for life, so that economic cost does not go away.

The vaccine may only confer protection for as little as 5 years, after which you would supposedly have to get risky booster after booster.

The best way of avoiding HPV is simply to use a condom, which is a harmless barrier method, not invasive internal medicine.

Parents in a number of countries are questioning the safety of the vax after witnessing many serious ARs in their children.  Ireland has REGRET, Denmark recently made a documentary about damaged girls from the HPV vax.

As usual, the pharmaceutical companies hope to be able to  write off ARs such as death, CFS or GBS as 'coincidence' or something that would happen to these otherwise fit, sporty girls, in the hope that no-one adds up the true cost to offset against the death rate from cervical cancer.

While the body eventually defeats many HPV strains, at some point HPV can turn into cancer, which the body doesn't defeat itself unfortunately.  If this were the case, then the HPV vaccines would not be necessary.  Your comment about condom use is not correct - speak to many people on this form who used a condom and still got HSV, it's the same with HPV.  The condom doesn't cover all the of the skin coming into contact with the other person.

"Every year, about 11,000 women are diagnosed with cervical cancer, and about 4,400 women die from this disease in the U.S." (CDC).  The two approved HPV vaccines protect against HPV strains that cause 70% of these cervical cancers.  Gardasil additionally protects against "cancers of the anus, vagina and vulva."  The study that came out only looks at cervical cancer, so the additional benefits may be even greater statistically.  Men are not even looked at in the study, which is unfortunate.  With homosexual men, anal and some throat cancers are of great concern.  Gardasil helps reduce some of these and I assume statistics in reduction would be somewhat similar to this study.

While there are always a few one offs with vaccines (allergic reactions, etc.), this is not the norm.  Everyone should make an educated decision, based upon research from experts and not fear from facebook or documentaries from the anti-vaccination movement.  I really don't want to get into a debate on here about a battle which won't be won in the internet - I don't have the time.  I'll simply leave these youtube videos for some entertainment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo NSFW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgpfNScEd3M

Edited February 25, 2016 by Evaluate

[Sanguine108]

1 hour ago, Evaluate said:

Every year, about 11,000 women are diagnosed with cervical cancer, and about 4,400 women die from this disease in the U.S." (CDC).

Given that the population of the US is about 318.9 million, 11k and 4,400 isn't that many.

While the CDC lists Cancer as the 2nd highest cause of mortality, with a number of 584,881 people (2013 CDC), cervical cancer deaths of 4,400 is 0.75% of that total.

So, to me, that means that these people, who did succumb to cervical cancer, had some other issues that allowed this to happen.   0.75% is not a high percentage.  And of the 11k people who are diagnosed, that makes them at 1.88% of the 584,881.   I feel like HPV might even have a greater stigma around it than HSV because the concern is just so vastly inflated.   Don't get me wrong, I'm all for preventing disease, but the numbers over the concern for this are... well... there are other things to along with and over HPV.

So to go a little further.   2015 stats

Total genital-repro cancer Dx'd, both men and women: 329,330.

Of that, 231,050 Male,                       98,280 Female
              230,800 prostate cancer      12,900 cervical cancer 
58,670 est total deaths in 2015.
              28,736 male deaths              30,440 female deaths
               27,540 prostate c. deaths    4,100 cervical c deaths.

Anyhow, out of nearly 319 million people, these numbers don't seem that phenomenal. In the East, it's all old hat where stagnation is the mother of all diseases.  Cancer is a disease of stagnation and/or deficiency that leads to stagnation.   But these numbers of cervical cancer and its mortality are nowhere near the numbers of prostate cancer and nooowhere near HIV, but that's a different story.   I'd like an "underlying issue of prostate cancer" article to come out in the West.    Maybe people should be massaging their prostate more often.
https://www.lelo.com/blog/five-questions-benefits-prostate-massaging/

Progress is progress is science and I think it's great that the HPV vaccine has made some stardom in the world.   I think they just picked a very easy virus to do a safe lil project with.   If they can do HSV already then I'll be resounding with applaud and cheers.  

Edited February 25, 2016 by Sanguine108

[Sanguine108]

http://realitieswatch.com/lead-developer-hpv-vaccines-comes-clean-warns-parents-young-girls-giant-deadly-scam/

Here's a fun article I just came across..  

take it with a grain of salt.

 

Edited March 14, 2016 by Sanguine108

[Mellisuga]

Gardasil-9 is also available in the US and Canada:

http://www.chatelaine.com/health/dont-start-fretting-over-gardasil-just-yet/

[Herbfresh]

Who cares? We have virtual confirmation that Ademdus is a failure from Frazer himself.