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Oddone

Has anyone been able to take Rational Vaccines herpes blood test?  I sent Dr. Halford an email recently regarding this, but I did not receive a reply.  I have signed up twice on their website, but I have not heard anything.

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WilsoInAus

This test, the ABVIC, is taken for the same reasons as one would take the Westernblot. These usually relate to issues with circumstances and IgG testing. Otherwise it is a bit of waste of money and resources. Do you have any particular testing issues?

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WilsoInAus

The incremental accuracy for HSV-2 antibody detection by ABVIC or Westernblot is about 1% better than IgG. If you have not had a genital lesion or have had a negative swab the chance of detection is negligible at best.

Think about this, but it is always nice to get strong confirmation to be able to move on.

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Oddone

I've never had a typical lesion, at least genitally, other than chronic itchy painful red bumps on my butt cheeks for the past year.  I have taken the Western Blot twice, both positive for HSV 1 and negative for HSV2.  Herpes Select always 15-20 for IGG HSV1 and never over 2 for HSV2.  I have never been swabbed because none of the "professionals" I have seen will swab the red bumps.

In communication with Dr. Halford, it was stated to me the ABVIC would put this issue to rest for me.

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WilsoInAus

Ahhh that's it then. The ABVIC does not pick up any more infections than the Westernblot, it is essentially the same test in that regard. I'd suggest absolutely no need for the ABVIC, but if you feel it will help.

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Oddone

Call me skeptical, but I found the whole WB process a bit iffy.  Having to go through a third party and then when I would call the UW Virology department they never had record that I had sent the blood tests.  Then the way the reports were presented to me looked very unprofessional.  I'll spend the $250 with Rational Vaccines, that is, if they ever get this up and running.

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fixme1

Hes concentrating on getting his theraputic live vaccine done before abvic testing is rolled out, he responded on.his blog a few days ago saying that

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WilsoInAus

Which makes sense as there is presently a void in terms of a vaccine, but there is the Westernblot. ABVIC is better than the Westernblot in the sense that it is believed to have virtually no equivocal results that the Westernblot generates at times. Even this hasn't actually advanced things a great deal as ABVIC shows that over 90% of WB equivocal results are negative with the remainder still equivocal. Be interesting to see if ABVIC does ever show an WB equivocal to be a positive!

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honey_6974

An extract of a comment from Halford that he posted on his blog today:

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The HSV ABVIC manuscript is completed and will be submitted for publication shortly, and you can read the paper when it is published. What many blog readers forget is that 100% of my time is occupied doing research and writing that needs to be completed in order to solve these problems for the world (thru peer-reviewed science).

https://liveherpesvaccine.com/#comment-5783

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LillianPanos

I read this didn't quite follow it.lol. I signed up for the ABVIC. I have no idea when it will be available.  Will be doing my 4th igg next week!  

7 minutes ago, honey_6974 said:

An extract of a comment from Halford that he posted on his blog today:

https://liveherpesvaccine.com/#comment-5783

 

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Juggalo

The most certain way is to swab your lesions or red bumps if you have those and then test it using PCR method, over your physician through a lab. Does not even have to be wet (absorbent cotton), just fresh and a good rubbing.

Then the result is either HSV1/2 positive or negative. 

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