h2o2 cure?

[deartechie]

I thought I would share that after suffering from herpes for decades, I have not had a reoccurring outbreak for over a year since applying 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide directly to the sores with a cotton swab.  

[Cas9]

Have you contacted all the researchers to tell them of your simple cure?

[oldgal]

Hi deartechie.  Welcome and thanks for your post.  This is very interesting.  I have previously done quite a bit of my own research into h2o2, but not for herpes (surprisingly enough, as I am also a long-term sufferer).  I do believe it is a broad spectrum cure when ingested, and the benefits of its topical use would not surprise me at all.  Well worth a try!

[oldgal]

3 hours ago, Cas9 said:

Have you contacted all the researchers to tell them of your simple cure?

I wouldn't be surprised if they already know.  H2O2 has been curing far more serious things than herpes for a long time now.  Look it up - cancer, COPD and a host of other things.  But a cure that costs a couple of dollars will never find its way into the "medical breakthrough" categories we get to hear about in the mainstream because the multi-billion dollar drug industry needs us all to stay sick and believe that the poisons they hand out like smarties are our only chance of recovery/survival.

[deartechie]

hi cas9, no I haven't... how would I go about doing that?

I've just begun trying to get the word out after more or less doing a trial on myself and this is one of the places I've started.

I'm with 'ya oldgal, the last thing today's big pharma would want to see would be to slowly watch a multi-million dollar revenue stream more or less just disappear  

[Whyyyyy]

How do you use it exactly? 

[deartechie]

Whyyyyy, i simply moisten the end of a cotton swab with straight 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide and just rub it into the sore.

I wrote a story on a blog i posted with another account on what to fully expect but was banned for 'promoting' another site with no adds...

[Whyyyyy]

Well that's silly!

[Cas9]

Guys; I was kidding when I asked if deartechie had notified the Researchers.   Hydrogen peroxide does not cure herpes.

I'm sure it has the ability to kill the virus on the skin, but so does soap and water. Hydrogen peroxide does not enter your nerve cells and kill the herpes virus.

[oldgal]

13 minutes ago, Cas9 said:

Guys; I was kidding when I asked if deartechie had notified the Researchers.   Hydrogen peroxide does not cure herpes.

I'm sure it has the ability to kill the virus on the skin, but so does soap and water. Hydrogen peroxide does not enter your nerve cells and kill the herpes virus.

Hi Cas!  You're probably right, but if it can heal an outbreak quickly before it gets to that stage where it makes our lives a misery, it's worth a shot.  I have read many topical treatments that are being used and recommended on here (some quite imaginative lol) to soothe the pain, but none that actually heal.  I expect quite a few will try the H2O2 and I will be very interested to get some feedback.  

deartechie - would regular "supermarket" hydrogen peroxide be okay?  I have looked for the 35% food grade here in the past but the bottles just say hydrogen peroxide.  No-one knows what I'm talking about when I get specific.

 

[Atrapasueños]

Las farmacéuticas no están obligadas a inventar curas, todo es un negocio pero no puedes exigirle a una farmacéuticas inventar una cura, se le debe exigir a nuestros propios gobiernos 

@deartechie

Pharmacists are not obliged to invent cures, everything is a business but you can not require a pharmaceutical to invent a cure, it should be required of our own governments

[deartechie]

cas9- a rather pessimistic statement don't you think? have you tried it? do you work for or have stock in GSK? have you had a reoccurring ob that surfaced several times a year without fail for nearly 30 years that all of a sudden has not reappeared for over 13 months since applying it? it's ok if you choose not to believe... but spreading doubt for folks that may be a little more hopeful than you is not very positive to say the least.

oldgal - I highly doubt off the shelf h2o2 will work, something tells me it is the concentration that does the trick. I've used the off the shelf stuff in the past for minor scrapes and burns and never got the white discoloration on my fingers where a drop dripped. I get mine at a health food kind of store, it's refrigerated - there is a site that helped me find vendors I located on google but I hesitate to post it in fear of getting banned again...

[oldgal]

 I had a feeling that might be the case.  I will have to see if it's possible to get some of the 35% stuff posted here - but I have my doubts.  Thanks again.

[Cas9]

1 hour ago, deartechie said:

cas9- a rather pessimistic statement don't you think? have you tried it? do you work for or have stock in GSK? have you had a reoccurring ob that surfaced several times a year without fail for nearly 30 years that all of a sudden has not reappeared for over 13 months since applying it? it's ok if you choose not to believe... but spreading doubt for folks that may be a little more hopeful than you is not very positive to say the least.

oldgal - I highly doubt off the shelf h2o2 will work, something tells me it is the concentration that does the trick. I've used the off the shelf stuff in the past for minor scrapes and burns and never got the white discoloration on my fingers where a drop dripped. I get mine at a health food kind of store, it's refrigerated - there is a site that helped me find vendors I located on google but I hesitate to post it in fear of getting banned again...

I see, so if I disagree with something I better not let anyone know about my disagreement. I think you may want to reconsider that statement.
So yes, I don't believe and I can express that thought as I wish, just like you believe, and you expressed your thought.
You can call it pessimistic; I call it scientifically accurate. You sound like a conspiracy theorist with your GSK comment. I had to look it up to see who they were. And no, I don't work for them nor do I have stock. But I do have a tendency to state  my opinion when I believe someone's comment is inaccurate. In the final analysis, people can do or try anything they want.

[deartechie]

cas9, you have me totally wrong.... and for that I apologize  - you can disagree all you want as it's all our right to have our own opinions, but at least to me... it seemed that making a blanket claim of "Hydrogen peroxide does not enter your nerve cells and kill the herpes virus." was more based in disbelief rather than backed by any form of scientific evidence - and also appeared as if it were just simply something less than positive to say in response to my post (like accusing me of being a conspiracy theorist)...

My goal is to present my experience to those who suffer from something I used to suffer miserably with for years, and i'm just choosing to share the method I used to see my outbreak go away - longer than it ever has in nearly 30 years...

we do agree on something however  "people can do or try anything they want." (and I hope they do)

[Cas9]

37 minutes ago, deartechie said:

cas9, you have me totally wrong.... and for that I apologize  - you can disagree all you want as it's all our right to have our own opinions, but at least to me... it seemed that making a blanket claim of "Hydrogen peroxide does not enter your nerve cells and kill the herpes virus." was more based in disbelief rather than backed by any form of scientific evidence - and also appeared as if it were just simply something less than positive to say in response to my post (like accusing me of being a conspiracy theorist)...

My goal is to present my experience to those who suffer from something I used to suffer miserably with for years, and i'm just choosing to share the method I used to see my outbreak go away - longer than it ever has in nearly 30 years...

we do agree on something however  "people can do or try anything they want." (and I hope they do)

I don't think you're some scammer trying to sell a product. I think you're sincere in your belief. My conspiracy theorist comment was simply based on your allegation that my comments were biased due to some connection with GSK. I thought that comment was uncalled for. But no big deal.

All that said, there is no clinical evidence that hydrogen peroxide cure herpes. If that chemical ever got into a nerve cell it may very well kill the latent virus BUT it would also damage the DNA of the nerve cell and if not kill the cell, certainly damage it. But there is no nerve damage from applying it because it doesn't go into your nerve cells, which in turn means that it doesn't destroy the latent virus. But as I said, people can try whatever they want.

[deartechie]

Every cure starts with a discovery though yeah? i'm certainly not the grandiose type to think that I have solely discovered that a relatively common household item could be the cure... but i'd feel remiss not to at least share my story. As I would have wanted someone to do the same for me if the shoe was on the other foot.

I also have to say that I feel no loss of sensation on my face where I applied the peroxide and it's been 13 months. I felt obligated to take the wait and see approach before broadcasting to the masses what I did. My whiskers still grow, my skin tone is the same, the area continues to tan evenly - the only effect I've observed is that the ob has not returned, and I have not had to use that expensive tube of GSK cream since

[LillianPanos]

As a kid I got fever blister on lips back then, there was NOTHING for cold sores then recommded vaseline I tried hydrogen peroxide it never worked for me... I remember putting it on other sores and nicks and likeed watching it white foam up. I remember talking with others thinking it was harmless and worthless... jus sayin.. but i will try on genitals and report back...

[deartechie]

I wish you all the best Lillian! I only source 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide and nothing else - any reputable place that sells it will keep refrigerated.

tip- when I over saturated the cotton swab... it caused drips (not desireable). Also be forewarned, it did sting me a little - but did subside.

[Cas9]

11 hours ago, deartechie said:

I also have to say that I feel no loss of sensation on my face where I applied the peroxide and it's been 13 months.

Which is what I already explained; i.e. hydrogen peroxide doesn't penetrate nerve cells therefore it wont damage them nor be able to kill the latent virus inside them.

Your results of no OBs could very well be placebo in nature. Or there are changes in your body that are merely coincidental with the application of hydrogen peroxide. For example, your immune system may be improved because you're happier or confidant or you're eating better or getting better sleep or less stressed or.......
I've gone through stretches of no OBS and then have other stretches where the OBs are more frequent.

By the way; on your face??? What type of herpes do you have and where is it located? And where specifically have you applied hydrogen peroxide?

[deartechie]

Cas9, I'm becoming more and more curious on why you are choosing to continue to make a claims that "hydrogen peroxide doesn't penetrate nerve cell"... how then can the areas of white discoloration of the skin be explained?

Multiple sources clearly state that dermal exposure to high concentrations of hydrogen peroxide is due to oxygen bubbles in the capillaries - who is to say whether or not it can truly reach a nerve cell? Has anyone microscopically proven just how deep a 35% solution can penetrate under various degrees of exposure - especially in the presence of the compromised skin in a ob?

As for my life... my career is in the toilet... my marriage is at its most stressful point in over 18 years... my in-laws are nearing the ends of their lives... my family and I have been in a HUGE fight for months since I kept a cancer scare from them until I was delivered my diagnosis (which also answers concidential circumstances of happiness, confidence eating better or being less stressed)  As shared before, my outbreaks had always been very routine... a close call with a traffic accident (I live in the third largest city in america and drive regularly), a random surprising bark from a dog, a scary moment from a movie... nearly colliding into a jogger at a sidewalk intersection... need I continue?

[Cas9]

22 minutes ago, deartechie said:

Cas9, I'm becoming more and more curious on why you are choosing to continue to make a claims that "hydrogen peroxide doesn't penetrate nerve cell"... how then can the areas of white discoloration of the skin be explained?

The white areas of your skin are skin related, and nothing to do with your nerves. I don't think you understand nerve cells. First of all, I already explained that if hydrogen peroxide ever got into a nerve cell, it would damage the cell. Further, the nerve cell is comprised of a nerve body, which lives in the nerve bundle. The nerve body is connected to an axon. The axon is like a long wire that travels towards the skin, but it doesn't make it to the skin. The axon is connected to the axon terminal which branches out like small tree limbs. The axon terminal is what's directly under the skin. Maybe you should ask your doctor to explain it to you.
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I don't know what you had on your face or even where on your face you say you have herpes. Have you ever had the marks/sores diagnosed to make sure they are in fact herpes? Maybe it's something else; something bacteria related, or even viral, but not herpes. In that case, then it's possible hydrogen peroxide could be effective.

All that said, I wish you good luck with your OBs, or lack of them. Sounds like you're happy, and that's what counts.

[Atrapasueños]

Los axones están integrados a las neuronas es imposible que el peróxido de hidrógeno penetre los axones y viaje hasta los nervios, si fuera tan sencillo penetrar las células nerviosas no habría tantos estudios de vectores para penetrar una célula nerviosa, las células nerviosas y células de la piel son muy diferentes 

 

Axons are integrated into the neurons, it is impossible for hydrogen peroxide to penetrate the axons and travel to the nerves, if it were so simple to penetrate the nerve cells, there would not be so many vector studies to penetrate a nerve cell, nerve cells and Skin are very different

[deartechie]

As much as I appreciate the few but lightly entertaining 'medical' perspectives... I know what this treatment method did for me, I lived through it, have seen the results and nothing can change that.

I've been suffering with herpes for decades and have been through a gambit of all the different 'treatments'... prescriptions (which I received from several licenced physicians by the way) both in pill and in ointment form, 100% melissa oil (smelling like pledge floor cleaner for days), L-Lysine pills and ointments, even high end cold sore creams (once it finally made it to the shelves), diet changes... cutting back on caffeine, shying away from arginine type foods and gravitating toward more alkaline choices. To just fathom of all the time, effort and money spent... Sure these all seemed to 'help' but they honestly were all just slightly better than the average placebo in comparison to my experience with 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide.

To close, this thread and my goal are to enrich the lives of the folks like LillianPanos and oldgal - certainly not to instigate commentary of disbelief... with that said this will be my last reply to such posts.

[Cas9]

25 minutes ago, deartechie said:

As much as I appreciate the few but lightly entertaining 'medical' perspectives... I know what this treatment method did for me, I lived through it, have seen the results and nothing can change that.

I've been suffering with herpes for decades and have been through a gambit of all the different 'treatments'... prescriptions (which I received from several licenced physicians by the way) both in pill and in ointment form, 100% melissa oil (smelling like pledge floor cleaner for days), L-Lysine pills and ointments, even high end cold sore creams (once it finally made it to the shelves), diet changes... cutting back on caffeine, shying away from arginine type foods and gravitating toward more alkaline choices. To just fathom of all the time, effort and money spent... Sure these all seemed to 'help' but they honestly were all just slightly better than the average placebo in comparison to my experience with 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide.

To close, this thread and my goal are to enrich the lives of the folks like LillianPanos and oldgal - certainly not to instigate commentary of disbelief... with that said this will be my last reply to such posts.

I concur; I have also been entertained by your 'medical' perspective.