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098765.

It seems as though that since my initial outbreak in July 2016 I have had nonstop outbreaks since then. Like constant symptoms: itching, tingling, burning, shocks, blisters, cuts. The constant presence of blisters and itching has left my skin raw/red and ulcerated. It appears as though the top layer of skin is missing leaving an open wound at the entrance of my vagina on the inner labia major somewhat extending to the perineum. Similar situation in my bum. Why can't my immune system manage this I've been on 800mg Acyclovir on and off doesn't help much in addition to lysine and zinc. I can't live like this anymore. Any suggestions or anyone with a similar experience? There's never a period of healing it's everyday.. week.. month after month 

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WilsoInAus

Hey @098765.this is an awful situation. You could certainly have hoped for a better outcome but you may fall into a category of ongoing issues.

First, the herpes. Taking antivirals is the best thing you can do. You daily dose seems right, any more and its essentially wasted. Speak to your doctor about going on antivirals constantly for the time being. Diet is important and you know the drill here. Lots of vegetables, followed by fruit, meats, grains etc. Everything in moderation. Lots of water, 2 plus litres per day. You'll be amazed at how much this helps. Sleep, you need to go over 8 hours. Your body does its best rebuilding whilst you are asleep.

The sores. Zinc is generally pretty good for skin, but must be zinc picolate otherwise the actual absorption is limited. Topically use a cream. It doesn't matter which one, in fact pure silicon gel has been shown to be as good if not better than anything.

The immune system. You may have an issue here and your doctor can work through issues here. The thyroid often features if there is an issue.

Also, are we talking about HSV-1 or HSV-2 here? Do you show good levels of antibodies in tests?

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Sanguine108

St.John's Wort vaginal suppository or colostrum.  They're both restorative herbs that enhance the immune system and speed up the healing of damaged tissue.

Let's take a look at what HSV is doing...
HSV resides in the nerves, causing inflammation along the nerve(s) it has infected.
St. John's Wort is a nervine herb meaning that it targets nerves, it's a restorative meaning that it repairs and mends tissue, and it's anti-inflammatory (esp to the nerves as it targets nerves).

Wilso will go all Adolf on SJW bc he thinks it's more dangerous than snorting arsenic. He'll claim I don't have HSV and that I fake my time on this board.  Wilso has had oral HSV-1 from infancy and is diagnosed with Asberger's syndrome.  Not trying to discredit him but this is my disclaimer to not respond to him to not hijack your post.  If you are taking psychiatric/mind/neurotransmitter medication then you shouldn't take SJW. (at least until the psych meds are out of your system) If you are taking some complex assortment of Rx drugs then talk with your doctor.

I have oral and genital HSV-1 and while my symptoms below were 'milder', I had outbreaks on my lips/philtrum area and persisting ulcerations (paper cuts) on my face and philtrum.  I ran through herbs to try and while some of them helped 'suppress' symptoms, the ulcerations kept coming back.  SJW was on my radar as the next thing to try and it healed the ulcerations overnight.   Different herbs have different targeting effects around the body.  SJW, while its effects are systemic, will have a stronger influence on the upper part of the body for reasons that are superfluous to this post.   But administering SJW via vaginal suppository is the best way to use it for genital HSV.  

Anyhow, this is a website I found last year for SJW vaginal suppositories.  They weren't selling online at the time but recently they've started.
http://www.cydonia.ba/product/st-johns-wort-oil-vaginal-suppositories/

I actually ordered and tried one and I am male.  (had to make sure before I started boasting about it)  

Colostrum is mother's first milk.  You can get bovine/cow or goat colostrum.  Colostrum has immune building block components (IgGs...), growth factors (the restorative aspect) and various other nourishing compounds.

Your situation sounds awful. Hope you get some relief.

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WilsoInAus

Be very careful of this post. SJW is dangerous and is not safe for pregnant women.

As we say, there's no diagnosis like self diagnosis! Sanguine believes if he says in enough posts that he has HSV, then it must be true - its been happening for years.

Our readers are smart enough to know otherwise ;)

Good luck Sanguine, I hope you find out what is ailing you!! xx

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MoniqueLow
On 2017-6-9 at 2:25 PM, WilsoInAus said:

Be very careful of this post. SJW is dangerous and is not safe for pregnant women.

As we say, there's no diagnosis like self diagnosis! Sanguine believes if he says in enough posts that he has HSV, then it must be true - its been happening for years.

Our readers are smart enough to know otherwise ;)

Good luck Sanguine, I hope you find out what is ailing you!! xx

Be careful, valtrex or other AVs are dangerous and not safe for pregnant women. Don't take them! :-)

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MoniqueLow

@098765. Not just to tease Wilson, but also help a bit, I have heard bee propolis helps too, so you can try it on a top of colostrum and sjw. Btw I love st John worth, it's a miracle herb. It's literally saved my life when I was depressed because of H as it has antidepressant effect among many other health benefits. And well, using sjw can make you pregnant as it neutralize the contraception pill effects, so I would say it's dangerous in this meaning ;-) I hope you will get better soon.

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WilsoInAus
11 minutes ago, MoniqueLow said:

Be careful, valtrex or other AVs are dangerous and not safe for pregnant women. Don't take them! :-)

This is incorrect, they are approved by the FDA during pregnancy in line with the following information. I have reported this post. It is not a question of safety just for the mother, but also the risk to baby of contracting HSV during birth. Please take more responsibility for your posts. Please reflect on what it says about you to have posted such an awful and erroneous thing.

From the FDA:

8 USE IN SPECIFIC POPULATIONS

8.1 Pregnancy

Pregnancy Category B. There are no adequate and well-controlled studies of VALTREX or acyclovir in pregnant women. Based on prospective pregnancy registry data on 749 pregnancies, the overall rate of birth defects in infants exposed to acyclovir in-utero appears similar to the rate for infants in the general population. VALTREX should be used during pregnancy only if the potential benefit justifies the potential risk to the fetus.

A prospective epidemiologic registry of acyclovir use during pregnancy was established in 1984 and completed in April 1999. There were 749 pregnancies followed in women exposed to systemic acyclovir during the first trimester of pregnancy resulting in 756 outcomes. The occurrence rate of birth defects approximates that found in the general population. However, the small size of the registry is insufficient to evaluate the risk for less common defects or to permit reliable or definitive conclusions regarding the safety of acyclovir in pregnant women and their developing fetuses

 

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MoniqueLow
6 minutes ago, WilsoInAus said:

This is incorrect, they are approved by the FDA during pregnancy in line with the following information. I have reported this post. It is not a question of safety just for the mother, but also the risk to baby of contracting HSV during birth. Please take more responsibility for your posts. Please reflect on what it says about you to have posted such an awful and erroneous thing.

From the FDA:

8 USE IN SPECIFIC POPULATIONS

8.1 Pregnancy

Pregnancy Category B. There are no adequate and well-controlled studies of VALTREX or acyclovir in pregnant women. Based on prospective pregnancy registry data on 749 pregnancies, the overall rate of birth defects in infants exposed to acyclovir in-utero appears similar to the rate for infants in the general population. VALTREX should be used during pregnancy only if the potential benefit justifies the potential risk to the fetus.

A prospective epidemiologic registry of acyclovir use during pregnancy was established in 1984 and completed in April 1999. There were 749 pregnancies followed in women exposed to systemic acyclovir during the first trimester of pregnancy resulting in 756 outcomes. The occurrence rate of birth defects approximates that found in the general population. However, the small size of the registry is insufficient to evaluate the risk for less common defects or to permit reliable or definitive conclusions regarding the safety of acyclovir in pregnant women and their developing fetuses

 

"VALTREX should be used during pregnancy only if the potential benefit justifies the potential risk to the fetus." That sounds pretty safe :-O 

Wilso, I am woman, I wanna have kids and this really scare me as I am on supressive therapy of AVs. I understand for you it's just one of the information about your herpes hobby, so you're not concerned, but for me it's serious.

Can you please post some official study about SJW danger in pregnancy?

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WilsoInAus
1 minute ago, MoniqueLow said:

 

Can you please post some official study about SJW danger in pregnancy?

That's the point, can you?

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MoniqueLow
1 minute ago, WilsoInAus said:

That's the point, can you?

There's a danger using AVs in pregnancy and that's why it's not recommended. 

There's no info about any potential risk using sjw in pregnancy. 

Am I right?

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WilsoInAus

There is no known danger using AVs in pregnancy. FDA takes a policy of not approving medicines for use during pregnancy unless certain tests have been undertaken. Very wise move since the thalidomide issue of the late 1950s early 1960s.

There has been tracking of pregnancies with the use of AVs such as the study of 756 children born referred to above. No issues implicated the AVs in this study. Women are advised to consult with their doctors as to usage during pregnancy.

There are no known studies of SJW hence there is no information as to its safety. SJW is known to cause anxiety, panic attacks, dizziness, nausea, aggression, amnesia and raise blood pressure in some cases all of which are unacceptable for a drug to be taken by a pregnant woman. There are also known adverse interactions with numerous drugs and impacting upon natural enzymes again making it inappropriate for use during pregnancy.  

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Devasher
On 6/8/2017 at 9:55 PM, 098765. said:

It seems as though that since my initial outbreak in July 2016 I have had nonstop outbreaks since then. Like constant symptoms: itching, tingling, burning, shocks, blisters, cuts. The constant presence of blisters and itching has left my skin raw/red and ulcerated. It appears as though the top layer of skin is missing leaving an open wound at the entrance of my vagina on the inner labia major somewhat extending to the perineum. Similar situation in my bum. Why can't my immune system manage this I've been on 800mg Acyclovir on and off doesn't help much in addition to lysine and zinc. I can't live like this anymore. Any suggestions or anyone with a similar experience? There's never a period of healing it's everyday.. week.. month after month 

As someone who has also had fairly consistent symptoms I would tell you first to make sure that you aren't dealing with a secondary bacterial, yeast or fungal infection. If you haven't already, go to a dermatologist to make sure that you are not actually dealing with symptoms that can be greatly reduced through a course of antibiotics, antifungal  or yeast-related cream. 

HSV can increase the amount of cuts in the skin, which in addition to making someone at higher risk for HIV (as the protective dermal barrier is not as protective as before) it also increases risks for bacteria, yeasts or fungus to cause infection. While diet and supplements can help your immune system if you have a significant enough infection their effect may be fairly limited.

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wildman

OP - go see the doctor ASAP . . . you need to test that stuff - swab, biopsy, etc. . . .

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Sanguine108
On 6/15/2017 at 10:40 PM, WilsoInAus said:

There is no known danger using AVs in pregnancy. FDA takes a policy of not approving medicines for use during pregnancy unless certain tests have been undertaken. Very wise move since the thalidomide issue of the late 1950s early 1960s.

There has been tracking of pregnancies with the use of AVs such as the study of 756 children born referred to above. No issues implicated the AVs in this study. Women are advised to consult with their doctors as to usage during pregnancy.

There are no known studies of SJW hence there is no information as to its safety. SJW is known to cause anxiety, panic attacks, dizziness, nausea, aggression, amnesia and raise blood pressure in some cases all of which are unacceptable for a drug to be taken by a pregnant woman. There are also known adverse interactions with numerous drugs and impacting upon natural enzymes again making it inappropriate for use during pregnancy.  

oh my gosh... you are legit the direct descendant of propaganda specialist, Joseph Goebbels.  I understand that you are Mr. Extenuating Circumstance, but fuck your unrealistic, unpragmatic, quoting the outdated 1st edition bullshit.

You are a damn idiot to believe that taking an Acyclovir or Valtrex won't affect a developing fetus.  When I took Acyclovir, my back hurt (where my kidneys are), my head was uneasy and it was uncomfortable to urinate.  None of that happens with SJW.  SJW upregulates all neurological activity so yeah it probably wouldn't be the best thing to take while pregnant.  Who knows how that affects a developing fetus, for better or worse.   ...But I've yet met a pregnant woman who wasn't questioning/researching supplements that she might take.  Oh, and you can be damn sure that whatever the mother experiences from a substance the developing fetus experiences as well.  And while mom-to-be is 'developmentally stable', the developing fetus is rich with critical periods in development that are paving the way for how he/she will be in the future.

But fuck me, what do I know?  What does Rx list say about Valtrex side effects?

Valtrex is available in generic form. Side effects of Valtrex include:

Postmarketing Experience

In addition to adverse events reported from clinical trials, the following events have been identified during postmarketing use of VALTREX. Because they are reported voluntarily from a population of unknown size, estimates of frequency cannot be made. These events have been chosen for inclusion due to a combination of their seriousness, frequency of reporting, or potential causal connection to VALTREX.

General: Facial edema, hypertension, tachycardia.

Allergic: Acute hypersensitivity reactions including anaphylaxis, angioedema, dyspnea, pruritus, rash, and urticaria [see CONTRAINDICATIONS].

CNS Symptoms: Aggressive behavior; agitation; ataxia; coma; confusion; decreased consciousness; dysarthria; encephalopathy; mania; and psychosis, including auditory and visual hallucinations, seizures, tremors [see WARNINGS AND PRECAUTIONS, Use In Specific Populations].

Eye: Visual abnormalities.

Gastrointestinal: Diarrhea.

Hepatobiliary Tract and Pancreas: Liver enzyme abnormalities, hepatitis.

Renal: Renal failure, renal pain (may be associated with renal failure) [see WARNINGS AND PRECAUTIONS, Use in Specific Populations].

Hematologic: Thrombocytopenia, aplastic anemia, leukocytoclastic vasculitis, TTP/HUS [see WARNINGS AND PRECAUTIONS].

Skin: Erythema multiforme, rashes including photosensitivity, alopecia.

 

Holy shit, I found the Devil and he lives in Valtrex!!

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30+ years

I seem to be having the same problem with constant outbreaks. I had an outbreak at the anal area in February 2016 and since then it has Been almost constant. I no sooner think it's gone and it's back. HELP! 

What zinc cream are folks using? Acyclover and valtrex are not helping at all. Any positive ideas with results would be greatly appreciated.

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deartechie

have you considered my 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide treatment?

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098765.

Turns out that I also had a terrible yeast infection going on. After treating the yeast the herpes outbreaks also ceased for a few months. However, I had one starting in October of last year and have had reoccurenes ever since no yeast or other infection present this time. Just widespread blisters that leave discoloration. I don't get why my outbreaks occur for months on end without any relief. Tea tree oil and tons of lysine seem to be helping ease the symptoms. Clearly there is some immune dysfunction in a case like mine. 

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vanish123

Perhaps try switching to Famvir.  Or Famicyclovir I think it is called.  I could not take Valtrex or Acyclovir as they stopped working for me.  Famvir is working, but now it is starting to not work, which worries me...but at least I had some relief for a few months.

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