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Skye249

A doctor speaking at the Herpes Viruses Association (HVA) conference I went to in February said that asymptomatic shedding is twice as likely to happen as outbreaks and that people who've never had an outbreak may asymptomatically shed the virus more than people who are symptomatic. He said this was because people who have outbreaks deal with the virus this way, while in asymptomatic people, their bodies are more likely to deal with the virus by shedding it without symptoms. 

Everything I read prior to the conference stated the opposite - that people who have outbreaks shed more asymptomatically. 

Are there two schools of thought on this?

And what does this mean for people who have outbreaks for the first few years after contracting the virus and then stop having them? 

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hopingforthebest08

@Skye249 I've read both. I think what it comes down to is nothing is definitive with this virus. It just depends on the individual. If you are + the best you can do is manage your outbreaks, disclose, use protection, and perhaps suppressive therapy. And hope for a cure/vaccine in the near future. 

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Skye249

Thanks hopingforthebest08. I think you are right. 

It just makes me think this is another reason to encourage testing. 

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Disc0rdant

Yup.  The answer is:

 

We doctors are clueless.  No ryhme or reason.  Might be a slightly dif strain, poorer immune system or a bunch of dif reasons mixed....

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Skye249

Can you please elaborate @SupermansJustice

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Atrapasueños

Los médicos se quedaron con los libros  y el concepto de los 80 y 90 ni siquiera saben diagnosticar al 100% el hsv menos van a saber de lesiones y arrojar 

Esta la creencia de que si no hay brote no hay contagió

La creencia de que es sólo un problema de la piel

La creencia de que el medicamento de supresión es 100% eficaz

La creencia de que puedes llevar una vida normal sin que te afecte físicamente y emocionalmente ya que para ellos sólo es un problema de la piel y que si no tienes lesiones no derramas 

En mi opinión los asintomáticos controlan un poco más la replicación del hsv pero eso no existen lesiones pero eso no evita que se escapen alguna partículas virales y se expongan en la piel

 

The doctors kept the books and the concept of the 80s and 90s do not even know to diagnose 100% the hsv less will know of injuries and throw

This is the belief that if there is no outbreak there is no contagion

The belief that it is just a skin problem

The belief that the suppression drug is 100% effective

The belief that you can lead a normal life without affecting you physically and emotionally because for them is only a problem of the skin and if you do not have injuries do not spill

In my opinion the asymptomatic control a little more the replication of the hsv but that there are no injuries but that does not prevent that they escape some viral particles and expose themselves in the skin

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Skye249

Thanks for the replies. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? 

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Nightmare7575

The woman I got it from had her first outbreak two weeks later ,so I thought I was in the clear,but she must have been shedding.

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