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Trusted brands for multivitamins and lysine -  anyone have a brand that they have been using for an extended period of time that they have high confidence in?  Looking for a daily multivitamin as well as a lysine supplement to use on days when I feel my arginine count is exceedingly high.  Furthermore, I'm going to adjust my diet to not include almond butter and other nuts to help in this fight.  If you have suitable alternatives to put high quality fat back into the diet, such as avocados etc - please advise.  I currently use Whey protein from Optimum Nutrition that I believe has favorable lysine to arginine ratios, but if you have a better post workout supplement with better ratios, please let me know.  Also, happy to lend a hand to any nutrition questions that you might have that I can answer.  @VVK and others, thank you.

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VVK

Rather than cutting sources of arginine, try increasing sources of lysine to balance the arginine. It will make life a lot easier.

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darlingdisaster
On 6/18/2017 at 9:57 PM, VVK said:

Rather than cutting sources of arginine, try increasing sources of lysine to balance the arginine. It will make life a lot easier.

I agree with this.  Trying to cut out sources of arginine is VERY difficult.  Upping your levels of lysine to balance out the arginine is much easier.  Still try to avoid eating copious amounts of arginine-rich foods, but don't try to cut them out altogether or you will find that you're not eating much of anything at all.

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Rick Sanchez

I've been using the Quantum Super Lysine+ and found it helpful.  Also Optimum Nutrition is good about giving you the amino profile of their products if you contact them.  I have been using the Gold Standard Whey Natural Vanilla and it is listed at: 

Lysine - 2233mg

Arginine - 505mg

I know there are plenty of people that will say to avoid adding anything with Arginine in your diet, but it is in most all of the foods we eat.  Chicken breast has a Lysine to Arginine ratio of 1.33 with 2500 mg of Lysine to 1870 mg of Arginine.  You just need to stay in a positive ratio/balanced ratio and cut back on the Arginine rich foods and drinks.

Avocados have on average 297 mg of Lysine to 200 mg of Arginine, so they are a good choice and I add them to a good bit of my meals. 

A site that I have found helpful is http://nutritiondata.self.com/  You can use the search bar near the top of the page to type in almost any food and it will give you the nutritional breakdown.  You can also do searches for the foods highest in Lysine and lowest in Arginine and search by food categories.  It is all going to be trial and error and nobody has all of the answers on diet or how to prevent outbreaks, so you will see a lot of conflicting information.  

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Nicoli

Thanks for that link! I just spent the last 30 min checking out my favorite foods. No wonder peanuts are deadly to me. 

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