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Mary449

Hi, first post here, so please be nice to me :)

i was diagnosed with hsv1 on my genitals in January time. I told my boyfriend before I got officially diagnosed and he took it really well when I got my results which was a relief. I do suspect I got it off him but it didn't bother me too much at the time. 

 

Weve since split up and ive finally hit my sad stage about it. Im also pretty clueless about it too so I was hoping you can educate me. 

As my ex clearly had OHsv1 could I have given him Ghsv1 back? Or can you only have it in one area? 

I understand that I should be using condoms to lessen the chances of passing it on but if I'm not shedding, does that make it a 0% chance of passing it on.  I understand that you never know when you are shedding but as I have not had a second outbreak, does that mean that I haven't passed it on to anyone previously?

i find it really difficult when people openly talk about cold sores on their face to me yet I have cold sores on my genitals and that is a big taboo. How is that fair? 

Sorry for the length and I'm sure that these have all been asked a millions times. 

Tia

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HarrisonIs

Hi Tia,

Welcome to the group! I'm in a similar boat to you as my latest relationship started with the transmission of Gential HSV1, however I'm still trying to get to the bottom of how I got it. 

I'm glad you're coming out of your sad spell, I know it can take a little while and even 10 months in I still have ups and downs. 

Now on to your questions, first of all if he had Oral HSV1, and had had it a while already (being more than 3 months is usually enough for the body to create enough antibodies to stop cross infection to another area) it's very unlikely he would catch it genitally also, however it is still possible if his immune system was low. 

It's always advised to use condoms anyway (I know it's a hassle) however they aren't 100% guaranteed to stop transmission of the herpes virus, although being female I think the chance of transmitting to a male is lower anyway. Me and my partner, who as far as we are aware is negative for the virus, do not use condoms as she is aware the transmission rate is low for genital HSV1 as it is not it's "prefered area". Being it's non prefered area also means shedding is less likely, from memory I think its about 3% of the year? So around 3/4 days of 365. However some people never do have another outbreak, I personally had my Primary (which was very bad, which is uncommon in men) and the a secondary which was only one lesion and from there I don't think I've had any others.

You're right, it isn't fair the stigma that comes along with this virus on the location we have it, as it's really nothing to be so shy about. That being said everyone on here is still too shy to have real photos on their profiles :'D maybe I should change that... it really comes down to how people are educated about it and the reactions we're trained to have to it! I'm aware some people have it worse than others, as some people with HSV2 have constant outbreaks back to back which obviously is a lot more detrimental to their health and well being, however most don't have it so severely! Also from having HSV1 you will be at a lower risk of catching HSV2 but it still can happen!

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Headshoulderskneesandtoes
On 6/30/2017 at 10:35 AM, HarrisonIs said:

Hi Tia,

Welcome to the group! I'm in a similar boat to you as my latest relationship started with the transmission of Gential HSV1, however I'm still trying to get to the bottom of how I got it. 

I'm glad you're coming out of your sad spell, I know it can take a little while and even 10 months in I still have ups and downs. 

Now on to your questions, first of all if he had Oral HSV1, and had had it a while already (being more than 3 months is usually enough for the body to create enough antibodies to stop cross infection to another area) it's very unlikely he would catch it genitally also, however it is still possible if his immune system was low. 

It's always advised to use condoms anyway (I know it's a hassle) however they aren't 100% guaranteed to stop transmission of the herpes virus, although being female I think the chance of transmitting to a male is lower anyway. Me and my partner, who as far as we are aware is negative for the virus, do not use condoms as she is aware the transmission rate is low for genital HSV1 as it is not it's "prefered area". Being it's non prefered area also means shedding is less likely, from memory I think its about 3% of the year? So around 3/4 days of 365. However some people never do have another outbreak, I personally had my Primary (which was very bad, which is uncommon in men) and the a secondary which was only one lesion and from there I don't think I've had any others.

You're right, it isn't fair the stigma that comes along with this virus on the location we have it, as it's really nothing to be so shy about. That being said everyone on here is still too shy to have real photos on their profiles :'D maybe I should change that... it really comes down to how people are educated about it and the reactions we're trained to have to it! I'm aware some people have it worse than others, as some people with HSV2 have constant outbreaks back to back which obviously is a lot more detrimental to their health and well being, however most don't have it so severely! Also from having HSV1 you will be at a lower risk of catching HSV2 but it still can happen!

@HarrisonIs can I ask you how you told your current gf you have ghsv1 and at what point in the relationship you brought it up and what did you say?

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Lisajd
6 hours ago, Headshoulderskneesandtoes said:

@HarrisonIs can I ask you how you told your current gf you have ghsv1 and at what point in the relationship you brought it up and what did you say?

When it comes to Disclosure it really is individual and depends on what is going on in the relationship if you're someone who likes to wait before you have sex then get to know the person first.  And when it comes to genital HSV 1 because the risk is so low you are better off to talk about cold sores and establish whether he has an existing oral infection because if he does then it is very unlikely that he would get it.  

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Mary449
10 hours ago, Lisajd said:

When it comes to Disclosure it really is individual and depends on what is going on in the relationship if you're someone who likes to wait before you have sex then get to know the person first.  And when it comes to genital HSV 1 because the risk is so low you are better off to talk about cold sores and establish whether he has an existing oral infection because if he does then it is very unlikely that he would get it.  

Is the risk really that low? 

You guys are making me feel so much better about everything already!

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Headshoulderskneesandtoes

I got ghsv1 from someone the first time I ever had sex with him, and there was no oral performed

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Headshoulderskneesandtoes

How should you start the convo? Like just say you get cold sores down there and ask if they've ever had one?

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Lisajd

I say that i have the cold sore virus but not on my mouth....down below. I then say with meds and protection its 1% risk.  Then go from there

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HarrisonIs
On 7/2/2017 at 5:01 AM, Headshoulderskneesandtoes said:

@HarrisonIs can I ask you how you told your current gf you have ghsv1 and at what point in the relationship you brought it up and what did you say?

Hello!

Basically what happened was I started having an OB right after me and my new girlfriend (it was just casual at the time) had already had sex! I had to get myself checked out and then had to just call her and tell her what the doctor had said my symptoms looked like. Obviously she was taken aback as she thought it was her who'd transmitted the virus to me. However after subsequent testing she tested negative both times! Now we're just careful when we have penetrative sex and if I feel unsure about anything we concentrate on her for the evening haha

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WilsoInAus

Hey @HarrisonIs how were you diagnosed? Blood or swab test?

Are you sure your partner had the proper IgG test type specific for HSV-1 and HSV-2?

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HarrisonIs
On 7/3/2017 at 11:39 PM, WilsoInAus said:

Hey @HarrisonIs how were you diagnosed? Blood or swab test?

Are you sure your partner had the proper IgG test type specific for HSV-1 and HSV-2?

Hi Wilson!

I was diagnosed with a swab and had a bloodtest also.

My partner had the blood test but I'm not sure if the doctor specified which they were looking for? I presumed they'd check for both as the situation was explained to the doctor beforehand :)

 

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