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Sanguine108

God.. is freaking good.  Never thought I'd be one of those people proclaiming that phrase but Imma own it up.

I have a deep science background and all throughout my schooling and jobs my belief and faith in That has been strengthened.
I know it sounds silly and as silly as it sounds, if you let the Light of the Divine into your heart then all this pain and suffering won't mean a thing, because you are f"ing timeless.

Let me elaborate... If you welcome God into you and God is timeless then you become timeless.   If you identify with the ego, attach to fleeting material trends, impulses and whatever things then you will not have a good time as your body/life fades, aches and pains become more apparent, other health vulnerabilities arise or heighten then who cares about those material things.   But God... God is the ultimate in providing surprises.  The ultimate I'm Going to Freaking Blow Your Mind With What I Have in Store for You.... And you will have noooo idea unless you just have faith and believe. 

It's just the way it goes.  There's no debate.  I'm not looking for a debate.  I apologize if I come off fire n' brimstone preachy, please disregard and excuse my ignorance if that's how you interpret this. It's ok. I'm not perfect.   ...But it doesn't mean I can' be in love with The One that is.  It doesn't mean I can't strive to be closer to that all-providing well-spring, the source of EVERYTHING that has been possible in my life.  I am so damn grateful, regardless of the herpetic situation.   It sucks but it's fine.  I'm just passing through.   And if you haven't that feeling then look for it.  There's a reason there are seekers and seers.  There's a reason why certain spiritual practices will get you "higher". 

Even if you don't believe and don't care but are still reading this post... Just humor yourself, close your eyes and ask a question.   NOT A FLEETING, MATERIALISTIC QUESTION.  Ask for something non-physical.  Idk, like "Show me how to get closer to You."

It's going to be ok.  If you already believe and have had moments where you've felt Grace or some sort of Divine smiling down upon you then use those memories to break mental distraught.
Kinda like the Magic Eye books, once you know how to see the hidden image then you are able to see it easily in the future.

 

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IslandGirlVibes

@Sanguine108 thanks for sharing... As a fellow believer I had a hard time coping with my new HSV status especially since I contracted it from my unfaithful spouse. I have my hard days when dealing with an outbreak where all I can think about is the betrayal and the unfair physical pain I have to endure because of someone else's actions and ignorance. And when I am able to look past the present moment  and remember that good and bad happens to all of us because God has allowed us all the gift of free will and that there is a life after this one, where there will be no more sickness and no more pain... I am encouraged. I know some people don't believe in God and don't believe in a life after this one... but to me it's the only hope I have to cling to ... To make make sense and find peace with my current predicament. 

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Sanguine108

@Cas9How many times have you discovered or learned about something in life that has been around much longer than you... 1,000's+++ of years?

How is God/faith/spirituality any different?

 

@IslandGirlVibes Thank you for the post.  Yeah, there's a quote that goes, "God created the Law of Karma then retired."  So regardless of ignorance, an action speak louder than words. (but words can still hurt people)   And you don't have to "cling" to your faith because you are swimming in it just as fish and birds swim through the aqueous and airy mediums.   I don't know how often you go on retreats or what you do for spiritual enhancement in your life but any investment in spiritual upliftment, enrichment, 'enlightenment' is money well spent.     

There's this swami, he passed on, but I remember reading a passage in one of his books going on about, "Every day you should sit with God (in silent meditation).  To say you are too busy to spend a small amount of time with Him would be like God saying, "Well, I am so busy with all of cosmic creation, that I can't provide you with air to breathe, food to eat and all you opportunities for you."   The swami's name is/was Paramahansa Yogananda and he loved Jesus soooo much. omg, so good.

If you have amazon prime then you should check out The Gospel of John (is free).  Even if you don't have prime, rent it.   Sooo worrrth it.  I decided to give The Passion of the Christ a try after seeing Gospel of John... omg... Passion of Christ is terrrrrrrrrrrible.  I mean, I understand why someone would produce a film like that but I want my $2 back for renting it. So bad. Like Hollywood sadomasochistic.   Gospel of John is really well done.  It's worth it. :)

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WilsoInAus

"It is as it was." 

Pope John Paul II on the movie "The Passion of the Christ".

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IslandGirlVibes

I'll check out the gospel of John on Amazon, thanks. And you're right spending quiet time alone with God is so important. 

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Cas9
1 hour ago, Sanguine108 said:

@Cas9How many times have you discovered or learned about something in life that has been around much longer than you... 1,000's+++ of years?

How is God/faith/spirituality any different?

What has that have to do with believing in an invisible man in the sky? My viewpoint on God and religion is best expressed by thinkers like:
Professor Richard Dawkins
Christopher Hitchens (deceased)
Michael Shermer
Lawrence Krauss
Sam Harris

In terms of religious humor here's a couple of examples I enjoy
https://youtu.be/nqAco8a7vEE?t=66
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE

 

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Sanguine108

You have to want God or realize God in whatever scenario you're in.   But the hardest part is forgetting everything you think and hold "true" about spirituality and religion.  To be a blank slate so that you can truly see without the obscuring, 3rd-party bias and preconceptions.  That is the most difficult part.

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1aday
10 hours ago, Sanguine108 said:

If you identify with the ego, attach to fleeting material trends, impulses and whatever things then you will not have a good time as your body/life fades, aches and pains become more apparent, other health vulnerabilities arise or heighten then who cares about those material things

The aches and pains.. yea.. sometimes it's not even material things, sometimes you just get caught up fixing your messed up situation, while experiencing unpleasant "forces" from different angles.. and you forget that God is in control.  Sometimes you think you're doing the right things but still end up in a tough spot.  Like when Moses led the Israelites to cross the desert to free them from slavery.... so they went but then they got terrified because the soldiers were after them, til they were able to cross the red sea and the sea swallowed the entire army behind them.. ...But yea, Him alone can heal and deliver us.  Most of the time, it is through suffering when our faith is strengthened. Not that I'm minimizing God but it's like you have better appreciation for avoiding sugar when you experience deterioration in your health and see what it does for you when you actually avoid it....of course that's a much smaller scale of the concept, but practical.  It is when everything's falling apart then you surrender it to Him when you see God's hands in the works, if you only seek Him and follow His ways.  I watched this video about having doubts which has crossed my mind a few times during my difficult times.  The pastor said that it's ok to have doubts because, when you get past the doubt is when you get the revelation.  It is through doubts when you learn and discover more about Him.  I was going through this emotionally/mentally draining situation in the midst of other problems/stress (...and herpes). I prayed and prayed for discernment and resolution, did everything I could, but I couldn't make it better til I just surrendered it.  The "surrender" ended up being painful that it left me feeling.... lost.  But I'm realizing now that He actually removed me from a situation that could potentially hurt me even more...because the "situation" in itself needs work and maturity.    ...It is painful, but that's faith... believing that He is there for you, working with you and is actually protecting you.    

Great post. But yea, I also recommend the movie Exodus, although the child that portrayed God was a little creepy.  

@Cas9  I've heard the "invisible man" statement a couple times and the best answer I've heard so far is, "you don't see air, but you breathe it and believe it".  Perhaps a more complex answer is, this is why God became man through Jesus (John 3:16).  So people would actually "see" God, how powerful he is, what He can do for you, and so that people would know/see how to live according to the ways of God--be patient, kind, compassionate, forgiving... etc   

 

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Cas9
7 hours ago, Sanguine108 said:

You have to want God or realize God in whatever scenario you're in.   But the hardest part is forgetting everything you think and hold "true" about spirituality and religion.  To be a blank slate so that you can truly see without the obscuring, 3rd-party bias and preconceptions.  That is the most difficult part.

@1aday

Thanks for the sermon but you know my position on religion and god. The basis for my atheist viewpoint is best expressed by those people I mentioned, and is a lot more complex than what you're talking about. But you believe what you want.

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Sanguine108

Why post on a thread that is in the Keeping the Faith / All Faiths area of the forum?

If you were to humor yourself in being pragmatic on the topic then you could always expand your scope of influence to different people along the spiritual spectrum.

-Bruce Lipton, PhD - Microbiologist relating spirituality to biology.  Karma and reincarnation - epigenetics - epigenome
-Alan Watts - British Anglican minister who turned into Integrative Eastern theologian / philosopher
-Paramahansa Yogananda - Major swami
-Deepak Chopra, MD - Endocrinologist. man, this guy has done so much
-Rumi - mystic poet
-Swami Muktananda
-Patanjali - Not sure if actually real person but wrote a major discourse on yoga
-Swami Sivananda - physician turned mystic/swami
-Milarepa - Tibetan Buddhist / yogi
-Jesus - all-star mystic/saint

I've given Richard Dawkins and some other self-proclaimed atheists a chance in hearing them out.  Personally, the arguments are superficial and empty.   I don't know if you've ever experienced this but when someone speaks "Truth", it resonates unlike fickle falsehoods.   Even deceptive spiritual leaders that claim to speak "Truth" will fail to elicit such a visceral effect.   People get taken advantage of all the time but that shouldn't dismiss the legitimacy of a spiritual tradition.  Just because of one bad apple, don't blame the bunch.   Otherwise, one's limited, myopic view lends to an opinion with very little depth.

But hey, you as a respectful "Atheist" have free-will to come into the Faith section of the forum and post about how you are an "Atheist" on a thread titled God.

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Cas9

Regarding my posting on Keeping the Faith / All Faiths area of the forum, I was unaware of that. I treated the topic more generically. So even though we have vastly opposite points of view on the topic, I will stop posting on this thread. Actually, I wasn't going to continue posting anyway since I didn't really want to turn it into a lengthy never ending debate. Hope things work out for you going forward.

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1aday

xD @WilsoInAus

@Cas9 I know it's difficult to put emotions on text, sorry if I sounded arrogant/preachy.. that was only meant for discussion, but I understand it's a sensitive topic.

 

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Cas9
6 hours ago, WilsoInAus said:

“Imagine there’s no heaven”

John Lennon

I have the album. Used to listen to it in high school senior year

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1aday
19 minutes ago, WilsoInAus said:

Yes, and what did you actually imagine?

No Hell below us, Above us only sky  

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IslandGirlVibes

@Cas9 I hope things work out for you too! I know your comment wasn't directed at me but I feel compelled to share some love. :) 

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38 minutes ago, WilsoInAus said:

Yes, and what did you actually imagine?

I don't know. I may have been smoking a joint at the time :) It was 1971. What were you imagining in 1971?

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46 minutes ago, Cas9 said:

I don't know. I may have been smoking a joint at the time :) It was 1971. What were you imagining in 1971?

When would my cold sores go away ;)

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1 minute ago, WilsoInAus said:

When would my cold sores go away ;)

I got a feeling you weren't even born yet; LOL

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