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Hsv2 oral article

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Came across this :

You have to download full article. Seems a bit extreme. Any thoughts?

https://bmb.natsci.msu.edu/faculty-emeritus/zachary-f-burton/research/

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WilsoInAus

Yes for sure over played. It is just a way for retired professors to keep their hand in. Helps justify ongoing funding and interest. Doctorate students are even worse, the more gravitas in the thesis the more likely they are conferred (well so they feel)!

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Quest

Oh, my! We are all doomed!!! haha. I hope none of that is true. Is there any truth to the article, @WilsoInAus ??

 

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WilsoInAus

Total sensationalism. In fact you are actually far better off having oral HSV-2 than HSV-1. It may not even be able to cause serious issues such as encephalitis from that location!

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Divon

Didn´t feel like reading this bs. HSV1 has been known as the main cause for meningitis or however its spelled for a long time aswell as ocular herpes and HSV2 unlikely to cause those. Furthermore HSV2 hates the mouth and only sheds 1% orally. So... pay no attention to this I guess?

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On 2018-03-23 at 5:45 PM, Divon said:

Didn´t feel like reading this bs. HSV1 has been known as the main cause for meningitis or however its spelled for a long time aswell as ocular herpes and HSV2 unlikely to cause those. Furthermore HSV2 hates the mouth and only sheds 1% orally. So... pay no attention to this I guess?

Ops my bad. Apparently HSV2 is more common for meningitis than HSV1 but the more serious type that directly affects the brain is usually HSV1 as I´ve understood it. From what I can read, Viral meningitis can often be very unserious and not need any hospital treatment at all while the bacterial caused one almost always leads to death when untreated. This is interesting topic since I´ve had a non HSV related some kind of meningitis experience myself growing up. I was hospitalized but it was far from a traumatic experience, in fact I have only good memories of it, quite minimal suffering. Had I died from it probably would have been one of the most peaceful ways possible to die, entirely unconscious.

Correct me if I´m wrong but the HSV2 viral meningitis in non immunocompromised patients seem to be similar to a flue experience and not so much more nor less than that. Perhaps it is more dangerous when its HSV2 oral than genital however?

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WilsoInAus

My understanding of the research is that 90% of encephalitis caused by HSV-1 or HSV-2 is caused by HSV-1. It happens about 1 in 500,000 years to people with the virus.

Treatment is good these days, although that's for those fortunate to be able to receive it, which is luckily a growing proportion of the world's population.

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https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/37/11/1527/373037 yupp, says here also that severe CNS is rare with hsv2. If your 1 in 500000 number is true then I guess we can happily drop this topic. Glad we cleared this out. Anyway, I guess this still means that hsv2 oral might be worse than I thought. Then again I thought it wasnt worth worrying about at all and it probably isnt either.

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