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sameer82

@Puni Seriously these guys are talking about Shilajit ..i travel in the himalayas 6-9 months a year easily and i knew this is only prescribed to testosterone levels ..Patanjali products are really cost effective but there are other brands also sell these in india ..I am yet in dilemma its been 18 months and i all my blood test are negative so for both HSV..But i am still getting those rashes on my glans which appear and go ..Let me order this and give a try ..rather trying those antivirals ..

@jxc1337 Thanks for this info it might help a few for sure ...

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Puni

Yes hope this helps, 

initial feeling is like i got my energy back, let's see what this does after a month.

i'll try to order the fulvic acid from amazon too.

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sochke
1 hour ago, Puni said:

Yes hope this helps, 

initial feeling is like i got my energy back, let's see what this does after a month.

i'll try to order the fulvic acid from amazon too.

How about ur symptoms

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GotMeAtLast

I just busted my bottle , but was able to suck enough up for a few more days till the new one gets here. What a way to end the night!

Just to be safe, I ordered 2 bottles.

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BartSimpson

So if I have silver fillings in my teeth and I've been a cigarette smoker for 15 years I would assume I have a lot of toxic heavy metals in my body , since Fulvic acid can act as a chelator is this safe to take ?

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cathy94
21 hours ago, jxc1337 said:

Huh? You should go get an actual ear cleaner.  Your ears are very delicate, be careful.

when I read reviews on the optimal organically site, someone said they used it for their ears

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cathy94
2 hours ago, GotMeAtLast said:

I just busted my bottle , but was able to suck enough up for a few more days till the new one gets here. What a way to end the night!

Just to be safe, I ordered 2 bottles.

Two bottles of the optimal organics?? Or iodine

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jxc1337
54 minutes ago, cathy94 said:

when I read reviews on the optimal organically site, someone said they used it for their ears

Oh then I’m not sure then. I thought I read somewhere it reacts badly with your skin. 

1 hour ago, BartSimpson said:

So if I have silver fillings in my teeth and I've been a cigarette smoker for 15 years I would assume I have a lot of toxic heavy metals in my body , since Fulvic acid can act as a chelator is this safe to take ?

Fulvic and Humic acids are supposed to actually detox the body of heavy metals. 

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BartSimpson
9 hours ago, jxc1337 said:

Oh then I’m not sure then. I thought I read somewhere it reacts badly with your skin. 

Fulvic and Humic acids are supposed to actually detox the body of heavy metals. 

This is extremely dangerous , when you mobilize metals you can create some serious health issues . Chelation when done 'correctly' is very dangerous , when done incorrectly it's suicide 

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jxc1337
2 hours ago, BartSimpson said:

This is extremely dangerous , when you mobilize metals you can create some serious health issues . Chelation when done 'correctly' is very dangerous , when done incorrectly it's suicide 

Can you post some links about this? I can’t seem to find any information that states taking fulvic  has any serious side effects or has caused any issues in people. I read that in actual chelation therapy, other chemicals are used via IV, and I’m assuming they use a large amount of the chelating agent which in then could pose a danger.

It seems as though chelation therapy is used on patients with heavy metal toxicity, and poses a danger when too much chelator is used which causes the toxic metals to be redistributed in the body, and into different organs.  From what I read, it seems as though you're supposed to use chelators minimally to reduce the risk of redistribution of the toxic metals.  The fulvic acid may pose a risk in people with heavy metal toxicities, but it seems as though if taken gradually the risk is lessened.  Heavy metal toxicity in the body carries a lot of symptoms, so if you're a candidate for it maybe it's best to consult a professional before adding the fulvic acid.  

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BartSimpson
27 minutes ago, jxc1337 said:

Can you post some links about this? I can’t seem to find any information that states taking fulvic  has any serious side effects or has caused any issues in people. I read that in actual chelation therapy, other chemicals are used via IV, and I’m assuming they use a large amount of the chelating agent which in then could pose a danger.

It seems as though chelation therapy is used on patients with heavy metal toxicity, and poses a danger when too much chelator is used which causes the toxic metals to be redistributed in the body, and into different organs.  From what I read, it seems as though you're supposed to use chelators minimally to reduce the risk of redistribution of the toxic metals.  The fulvic acid may pose a risk in people with heavy metal toxicities, but it seems as though if taken gradually the risk is lessened.  Heavy metal toxicity in the body carries a lot of symptoms, so if you're a candidate for it maybe it's best to consult a professional before adding the fulvic acid.  

 When the metals become mobilized they are immunosuppressive, most people will experience flareups and outbreaks during this time .  I am one of the unlucky few who has had neurological and motor function issues since contracting HSV.  My immune system was screwed up prior to exposure and now I'm in serious trouble . 

There are 2 philosophies on treating virus in central nervous system , detoxing body and boosting immune system or doing the opposite and suppressing immune function . Pick the wrong option and you could end up in serious , life threatening trouble . Did you have any health issues at all (even "trivial" things) prior to hsv ?

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jxc1337
2 minutes ago, BartSimpson said:

 When the metals become mobilized they are immunosuppressive, most people will experience flareups and outbreaks during this time .  I am one of the unlucky few who has had neurological and motor function issues since contracting HSV.  My immune system was screwed up prior to exposure and now I'm in serious trouble . 

There are 2 philosophies on treating virus in central nervous system , detoxing body and boosting immune system or doing the opposite and suppressing immune function . Pick the wrong option and you could end up in serious , life threatening trouble . Did you have any health issues at all (even "trivial" things) prior to hsv ?

Besides HSV, I may have contracted HPV years ago but besides that no real health issues.  I eat pretty healthy and try to take care of my body. 

You stated you have the fillings, do you show any signs of heavy metal toxicity? Fulvic acid has been shown to detoxify the body quite efficiently. I think it could only benefit you if you try it.  You may experience die off symptoms but those are rather common. When you go beyond the suggested doses that’s when it seems problems arise. 

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BartSimpson
18 minutes ago, jxc1337 said:

Besides HSV, I may have contracted HPV years ago but besides that no real health issues.  I eat pretty healthy and try to take care of my body. 

You stated you have the fillings, do you show any signs of heavy metal toxicity? Fulvic acid has been shown to detoxify the body quite efficiently. I think it could only benefit you if you try it.  You may experience die off symptoms but those are rather common. When you go beyond the suggested doses that’s when it seems problems arise. 

The signs of heavy metal toxicity are often confused with signs of chronic infection and vice versa , but they tend to go hand in hand . chronic low grade inflammation and cellular stress are what cause a person not to be able to detoxify properly which can be brought on by pathogens or high physical or emotional stress, and high stress brings out the pathogens . They are all connected . Infections , toxins, and stress .

 I have thrush at back of tongue , liver pain , fatigue , GI issues, cramping pain, weakness, dizziness, food reactions , nervous system problems , muscle twitching etc 

i don't drink or take any drugs and I work a job that's keeps me physically active and sweating a lot , I eat healthy and drink a lot of spring water yet these health issues persist . I'm 31 years old .

i believe I have a gene defiency in fighting off viruses , before hsv I had chronically high Epstein Barr antibody levels . Hsv seems to have been the straw that broke the camels back for me . When I eat foods high in sulfur (which chelate ) it flares symptoms and I get rashes in my armpits and swollen lymph nodes. I believe the infections are causing lowgrade inflammation which greatly impairs digestion and detoxification , when I manually move toxins it flares infections further . My game plan now is too limit sulfur based foods and supplements and try to clear the excess toxin load with exercise and slowly reintroduce sulfurs once the traffic jam is moving.

fulvic acid is certainly interesting though , and I appreciate your advice 

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Another thing as crazy as it sounds. I react very poorly to electronics and EMF , even flurorescent lighting flares me up . It's crazy 

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true_blue

I found a nutritionist who also praises humic acid. He recommends these capsules though and not the drops:

https://www.allergyresearchgroup.com/humic-acid-60-vegetarian-capsules

 

 

Here are some of the highlights I found from an interview he did:

Humic acid will bind to almost any virus. I’ve had patients with herpes simplex virus; one where the cold
sores—they used to manifest with stress or bright sunlight, for example, not manifest at all. I’ve had many, many
patients on humic acid. I myself am taking it now purely from the fact I’ve got the sense its’ going to be good for
me, but also, protecting me from things we don’t even know about yet.

I believe the dose that’s going to be effective will then automatically lead to a burden of inflammation within that person. It may manifest in the virus expressing itself so one needs to be aware of that. And if one coaches one’s patient appropriately, then if they get an outbreak of cold sore or other manifestation of a viral outbreak, then it may be the last cry of the virus, or one of the last cries of the virus, as it to them become contagious essentially. With many patients, there’s been one of those; for some patients, there have been two or three; but often the second or third, if you like, outbreak or death row, but then again, this is my hypothesis so I haven’t proven this, except the individuals then, the cold sore used to manifest or be present for a week, sort of emerges and is there for day, and it was like a blip on their lip as opposed to something more ugly. The impact of say, the herpes virus, has been very clear.

The typical dosing is starting off one at breakfast, one at dinner. The maximum dose that I’ve had a patient on is eight per day at a
period of time, and they’ve increased to eight per day at a time, and when they start them on one, they go on skin rash and the skin rash went away. They then took two, and the skin rash manifested and went away. And so, it’s been a gradual process. For that individual, a skin rash was a great manifestation of their progress, which they basically consistently had an improvement in energy when they stepped up all that dosing. I believe some individuals who are more robust in terms of—because I don’t think the humic acid will get rid of all viruses at that dose. I think a high dose may be needed
.

I believe humic acid is a breakthrough in far the induced conditions for which very few other remedies can work. Humic acid is something you can take daily, and certainly, that research which the lab is taking it every day for years. So, it’s going to be like a bell-shaped curve dosing, or indeed a precipice or cliff dosing where you increase the dose and then you quell the issue, solve the issue, then you can take a much lower dose thereafter on a prophylactic level.

As functional medicine practitioners, of course, we’re looking at a complete program, and so, yes, of course, we’re looking to heal the gut, avoid the gluten if that was a problem, avoid trigger foods because it cause immunity issues, etc., go to bed at time, proper hygiene, exercise—all those in mind. So, I have yet to have a single patient take humic acid as the only change they’ve engaged in. However, I have patients that take humic acid without enzymes and it does do its job, but I would say 90% from a memory
record—90% of my patients who take humic acid have also been recommended by myself proteolytic enzymes
at the same time.

The mechanism about which humic acid works, which is the viral binding like a Velcro (really, really sticky Velcro), actually prevents an adaptive process from occurring on the mechanistic level.

Any one particular or success story that stands out in your head that you’d like to share?

Probably the case of herpes where it manifested in two positive body—one being oral and the trigger factors for the gentle outbreak in the oral outbreak were very well documented by the patient. Effectively, sexual activity and/or stress and sunshine, and then they would have inevitable situation, so it was the Bain of their life, and the humic acid has effectively, completely nullified the expression of that. So, in terms of changes in one’s quality of life certainly with the herpes virus. Now, we haven’t done the antibody testing now
to see if the antibodies are lower, and maybe it’s unrealistic to expect them to be free of antibodies, but effectively, they’re free of the life-changing symptoms, which they believe and they were told, “You’re going to have this forever.” That comment from the man in the white coat or woman in the white coat is absolutely a brilliant motivator for some people, not for others, to say, “Excuse me. I’m not going to take that in face value. I’m going to find an alternative.” And so, it was through that they were sensitive. “They told me that, I’m not going to believe that,” and they’re going to search somewhere else. The humic acid is proven in this one is, I think, to be an absolute life-changing as you can possibly begin to imagine.

The full transcript is here:

http://autoimmunesummit.com/2014/antony-haynes/

 

 

 

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Quest
On 5/16/2018 at 4:04 PM, 2kroc said:

I've been very interested in trace minerals recently but I'm worried about accidentally overdosing a mineral  I might already have a good amount of. The thing I like about this is that you have so many different substances working in the body, you'd expect at least one of the minerals introduced will have a powerful effect at controlling herpes. It seems powerful, and I bet it's good enough to control herpes but I have came across someone telling about how fulvic acid failed to control their outbreaks, however it wasn't your brand and everyone's different. 

Jxc1337, Give it a year. If still don't have any outbreaks then for truth's sake try to trigger it so this method can have more credibility. 

 

From what I've observed from other people in my month of intense herpes research, The following is the most powerful and effective when suppressing and killing herpes:

-Lugol's Iodine

-Heavy dosing Olive leaf extact or olive leaf powder

-Omega 3 (Not 3-6-9's)

-Coconut oil/Monolaurin

-Dmso Cream spinal application with oil of oregano

 

 

Fish oil omega 3's and Iodine seem to be the most important, Omega 3's rebuild the nerves that herpes destroys and, by proxy, makes it much harder for the herpes virus to inhabit the nervous system, It also decreases the inflammation.   I'm not sure what the Iodine does exactly, but I've came across a few people claiming it completely destroyed their outbreaks for years, and one person actually claiming that he got a negative on a test after using it persistently. 

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It basically helps the thyroid and when peoples thyroid is taxed it bogs down the immune system leaving people vulnerable. All vitamins that build the immune system are needed for thyroid. :)

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sameer82
23 hours ago, BartSimpson said:

The signs of heavy metal toxicity are often confused with signs of chronic infection and vice versa , but they tend to go hand in hand . chronic low grade inflammation and cellular stress are what cause a person not to be able to detoxify properly which can be brought on by pathogens or high physical or emotional stress, and high stress brings out the pathogens . They are all connected . Infections , toxins, and stress .

 I have thrush at back of tongue , liver pain , fatigue , GI issues, cramping pain, weakness, dizziness, food reactions , nervous system problems , muscle twitching etc 

i don't drink or take any drugs and I work a job that's keeps me physically active and sweating a lot , I eat healthy and drink a lot of spring water yet these health issues persist . I'm 31 years old .

i believe I have a gene defiency in fighting off viruses , before hsv I had chronically high Epstein Barr antibody levels . Hsv seems to have been the straw that broke the camels back for me . When I eat foods high in sulfur (which chelate ) it flares symptoms and I get rashes in my armpits and swollen lymph nodes. I believe the infections are causing lowgrade inflammation which greatly impairs digestion and detoxification , when I manually move toxins it flares infections further . My game plan now is too limit sulfur based foods and supplements and try to clear the excess toxin load with exercise and slowly reintroduce sulfurs once the traffic jam is moving.

fulvic acid is certainly interesting though , and I appreciate your advice 

Hi Brat

Would you mind telling me whats your HSV status and what was your exposure and how much time it took to get the symptoms and what methods you used to get diagnosed ??

i am asking this as i am having rashes on my glans and very high lymphocytes in my blood but so far my HSV IGG,IGM test have all turned out negative even 18 months after exposure..

Thanks 

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BartSimpson
8 minutes ago, sameer82 said:

Hi Brat

Would you mind telling me whats your HSV status and what was your exposure and how much time it took to get the symptoms and what methods you used to get diagnosed ??

i am asking this as i am having rashes on my glans and very high lymphocytes in my blood but so far my HSV IGG,IGM test have all turned out negative even 18 months after exposure..

Thanks 

I doubt it's hsv then , You should test for others viruses in that family like CMV , EBV , hhv6 etc and any other stds . Also test for Lyme disease . You may want to visit an immune system specialist or rheumatologist to check body's ability to produce  immunoglobulins , that could explain false negative testing. Did you have any health issues prior ?

i was exposed in October , penis was tingling morning after oral sex and protected regular sex . Primary outbreak was in November and all hell broke loose symptom wise. Tested positive for hsv 1 in December . Doctor wasn't sure if hsv 1 was old infection and I caught hsv 2 but wasn't producing antibodies yet . 6 months post exposure still only test positive for hsv 1 but antibody levels have risen .

things seem to be flaring really bad for me past couple weeks . tremors , weird feeling in head , shoulder blade tension , dizziness , weakness etc 

trying to figure out whether to boost immune system or suppress it .

 

 

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7 minutes ago, BartSimpson said:

I doubt it's hsv then , You should test for others viruses in that family like CMV , EBV , hhv6 etc and any other stds . Also test for Lyme disease . You may want to visit an immune system specialist or rheumatologist to check body's ability to produce  immunoglobulins , that could explain false negative testing. Did you have any health issues prior ?

i was exposed in October , penis was tingling morning after oral sex and protected regular sex . Primary outbreak was in November and all hell broke loose symptom wise. Tested positive for hsv 1 in December . Doctor wasn't sure if hsv 1 was old infection and I caught hsv 2 but wasn't producing antibodies yet . 6 months post exposure still only test positive for hsv 1 but antibody levels have risen .

things seem to be flaring really bad for me past couple weeks . tremors , weird feeling in head , shoulder blade tension , dizziness , weakness etc 

trying to figure out whether to boost immune system or suppress it .

 

 

I am CMV IGG positive not IGM that sure . I also had wart on my glans which got later removed its more than 13 months since the wart is removed ..I had not tested for EBV or HHV6 so need to check them too..But my HSV1 and 2 so far in 18 months are negative but those rashes keep coming and going on its own without much pain ..But i also have pain under my armpits and ..i did get tremors and weakness few months ago very badly but then my Vitamin B12 was very very low ..Have you checked your Vitamin B12 levels ???

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43 minutes ago, sameer82 said:

I am CMV IGG positive not IGM that sure . I also had wart on my glans which got later removed its more than 13 months since the wart is removed ..I had not tested for EBV or HHV6 so need to check them too..But my HSV1 and 2 so far in 18 months are negative but those rashes keep coming and going on its own without much pain ..But i also have pain under my armpits and ..i did get tremors and weakness few months ago very badly but then my Vitamin B12 was very very low ..Have you checked your Vitamin B12 levels ???

I haven't checked vitamin b levels , but I do take a multivitamin every morning so hopefully that should help .

things seem to be getting much worse for me , and I'm getting a cold sore on lip for the first time . Primary outbreak was blister on finger .

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2kroc

Just got my first bottle of fulvic acid, It says that you can't dilute the water with fluorinated/chlorinated water which marks off all tap sources, so you'll either need to get alkalized spring water or distilled, Which kinda sucks.

I'll take 5 drops right now. I don't have a good feeling about this because nearly every powerful supplement out there has a negative impact on my cognition and cognitively retards me, even the one's specifically for cognitive boost.

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Puni
3 hours ago, BartSimpson said:

I haven't checked vitamin b levels , but I do take a multivitamin every morning so hopefully that should help .

things seem to be getting much worse for me , and I'm getting a cold sore on lip for the first time . Primary outbreak was blister on finger .

how did you autoinoculate ?

is getting herpes on fingers better than oral/genital ?

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59 minutes ago, 2kroc said:

Just got my first bottle of fulvic acid, It says that you can't dilute the water with fluorinated/chlorinated water which marks off all tap sources, so you'll either need to get alkalized spring water or distilled, Which kinda sucks.

I'll take 5 drops right now. I don't have a good feeling about this because nearly every powerful supplement out there has a negative impact on my cognition and cognitively retards me, even the one's specifically for cognitive boost.

I’m trying to find info on the interactions of fluoride and fulvic acid but can’t seem to find much info except that fulvic acid helps rid the body of fluoride. Most spring waters contain trace amounts of fluoride, not sure if it’s that detrimental, and I’ve been using Poland spring quite a bit.  Seems like most other companies warn people about mixing fulvic with chlorine.

Let us know how it works out for ya.

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37 minutes ago, jxc1337 said:

I’m trying to find info on the interactions of fluoride and fulvic acid but can’t seem to find much info except that fulvic acid helps rid the body of fluoride. Most spring waters contain trace amounts of fluoride, not sure if it’s that detrimental, and I’ve been using Poland spring quite a bit.  Seems like most other companies warn people about mixing fulvic with chlorine.

Let us know how it works out for ya.

How many months of taking this supplement did your outbreaks stop altogether? And this was at 9 drops?

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