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Hey world...

so... i recently had my first 'cold sore' outbreak... at first I didnt know what it was, i just thought it was some kind of a minor rash or just some temporary symptom of eating unhealthy for a while. But someone told me that it was herpes and that it was a STD. I was shocked, went home and did A LOT of research about it... and it is herpes.

The thing that bothers me the most,,, is that the internet 'says' that more than 2 thirds of the world has herpes... but where I come from, (a country in asia) this virus IS NOT COMMON. I searched the entirety of the internet in my country, there are hardly any cases/ posts/ forums etc. about it, only some 'theoretical' medical informations about it for 'studies'. Even when the internet world in my country is enormous. Now that I think about it, I have never seen ANYONE in my 25 year life in my country with herpes. (I am now living in EU, where I probably got the infection.) So I asked a couple of people that I know in my country about herpes. NONE of them even heard about it...

A handful of posts that I did find, all had comments saying how disgusted they were, how sexually-opened the world has become, how they are now insecure... and some copy pasted 'text book definition' of herpes.

I know now through searching, that herpes is not fatal, and that its common...

But I have to go back to my country soon... and will have to live there... 

If herpes is that highly infectious... what do I do...??? In a place where herpes would be taken judgementally and opinionated. I feel devastated right now. :(

 

I have a couple questions:

Will I never be able to kiss without passing it on? Or differently asked, when CAN I kiss without being absolute certain it wont be passed on.

Can you pass on oral herpes by just having normal sex? 

I want to know if there are any cases out there, where your partner or yourself is herpes-free and the other is infected, but have been together for quite some time, and hasnt got the other infected? 

 

I would very much appreciate for some replies. 

Thanks

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selu

First thing first did you get the lesion swabbed tested? Or did you do any test to show you have hsv?

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      It doesnt really mean much yet. They still dont know if the herpes is taking advantage of a diseased brain or causing the disease. Furthermore, there is evidence that Alzheimer's might be caused by oral spirochete disease and even Lyme. Many of you could have oral Spirochetes but the Lyme and is less likely. https://globallymealliance.org/pathogen-cause-alzheimers-disease/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5008232/ https://newsblog.drexel.edu/2016/02/10/do-infections-cause-alzheimers-disease/   Of course it could be both! Maybe having hsv-1 and oral spirochetes quadruples the risk.  In my opinion the spirochete theory sounds more likely and its hard to dismiss neurosurgeons and caretakers getting Alzheimers from a disease that was previously thought to be non contagious. I'd worry more about Spirochetes.  
    • Rgs77
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    • honkschonks
      I wonder if people in the military are tested for hsv, because the general public isn’t. You have to specifically ask for it and many doctors don’t even see the point because it’s “so common”. It’s very possible he has it and has no symptoms or very mild random symptoms. Sorry to hear what you’re dealing with. It seems like women’s symptoms are worse than men’s.
    • WilsoInAus
      No that’s not the issue at all. The absolute vast majority of nerve pain is not caused by herpes. Hence it cannot be used to reverse engineer a diagnosis of herpes. That is exceptinally dangerous and we must do all we can encourage proper diagnosis.
    • ill47
      Do you have an APOE4 gene? I do. I also have HSV-2, which so far hasn't been linked to dementia. Itzhaki previously found that cold sores occur more frequently in those who carry a gene variant that confers increased risk of Alzheimer’s called APOE-ε4. "Our theory is that in APOE-ε4 carriers, reactivation is more frequent or more harmful in HSV1-infected brain cells, which as a result accumulate damage that culminates in development of Alzheimer's," she said.

      So basically, if you carry the APOE4 gene and have oral HSV-1, you chances of dementia could be quite high. But if you have APOE4, your chances of dementia were higher already. Look, 80% of the population has HSV-1. 80% of the population does not get dementia. You also seem to skip over the fact that antiviral treatment can reduce the increased chances of dementia to almost nothing. "The striking results include evidence that the risk of senile dementia is much greater in those who are infected with HSV, and that anti-herpes antiviral treatment causes a dramatic decrease in number of those subjects severely affected by HSV1 who later develop dementia," Itzhaki said. The data from Taiwan only applies to the rare severe HSV1 or VZV infections. The next step will be to study dementia rates amongst people with mild HSV1 infections, including herpes labialis or mild genital herpes. "Considering that over 150 publications strongly support an HSV1 role in Alzheimer's, these Taiwan findings greatly justify usage of antiherpes antivirals - which are safe and well-tolerated - to treat Alzheimer's disease,” Itzhaki said."They also incentivize development of an HSV1 vaccine, which would likely be the most effective treatment." I think it behooves you to do your research and actually read the articles you are posting before pulling the alarm and trying to scare people. 
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