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I'm just wondering why with a 50 percent reduction in viral shedding why it wasn't approved ? They say it didn't work any better than existing treatment but if it worked equally as well or even close wouldn't it be worth not taking a pill every day ? I would have paid anyway just a rant 

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11 hours ago, Lukeherpwalker said:

I'm just wondering why with a 50 percent reduction in viral shedding why it wasn't approved ? They say it didn't work any better than existing treatment but if it worked equally as well or even close wouldn't it be worth not taking a pill every day ? I would have paid anyway just a rant 

Honestly it wouldn't be any profit in that. That's why. If you cut out taking pills these companies lose tons of money. I pray they have a heart and really find a cure soon in my lifetime.

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1 minute ago, lali said:

@floridaguy unfortunately, I think money is on their hearts. Nothing else.

Yes they profit off of pain and suffering. No way all these companies who have researched a cure and no one has come close? And when we do have one that has at least come close with Dr. Halford and Ractional Vaccines they file criminal charges on them. They dont care until it directly affects them. 

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8 minutes ago, floridaguy said:

Yes they profit off of pain and suffering. No way all these companies who have researched a cure and no one has come close? And when we do have one that has at least come close with Dr. Halford and Ractional Vaccines they file criminal charges on them. They dont care until it directly affects them. 

But people have worse herpes because of the Halford vaccination. The people suing are the participants of the trial.  If you participated and you got worse instead of better wouldn’t you sue? I get that people are angry this disease sucks but we also have to remember that no one has an obligation to cure us, the people who are trying to are doing the best they can. This lives in the nerves and it’s hard to get in there and people are hoping gene editing will be the way. I’m just glad someone is doing something I didn’t ask for this I wish I had known about this and better protected myself but I can’t be angry at anybody no one has an obligation to cure me.

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But people have worse herpes because of the Halford vaccination. The people suing are the participants of the trial.  If you participated and you got worse instead of better wouldn’t you sue? I get that people are angry this disease sucks but we also have to remember that no one has an obligation to cure us, the people who are trying to are doing the best they can. This lives in the nerves and it’s hard to get in there and people are hoping gene editing will be the way. I’m just glad someone is doing something I didn’t ask for this I wish I had known about this and better protected myself but I can’t be angry at anybody no one has an obligation to cure me.

I agree they dont have an obligation to cure anyone just seems like it's always an issue when HSV is involved for so many people to have it, it's still swept under the rug. Not enough fuss is made about it because it is seemingly not life threatening.  I guess I'm just wishing for a cure to pop up overnight I know there are some good people out there trying.  I applaud their efforts. 

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1 minute ago, floridaguy said:

I agree they dont have an obligation to cure anyone just seems like it's always an issue when HSV is involved for so many people to have it, it's still swept under the rug. Not enough fuss is made about it because it is seemingly not life threatening.  I guess I'm just wishing for a cure to pop up overnight I know there are some good people out there trying.  I applaud their efforts. 

I get it you know I’m tired too. I went from normal barely got sick to frequent illness and symptoms. It’s not a good disease in my opinion it’s one of the worst. I would love an overnight cure I’d probably sell a kidney for one if it came to it but the nature of this virus makes it a very formidable opponent. It’s in a very sensitive area that is not easily penetrated, if they could come up with a way to get in there they could do some damage by hopefully cleaving it and stopping all the symptoms even if the virus exists in the body it’ll be like a dead virus walking inside of us. 

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1 hour ago, Taintedgirl said:

I get it you know I’m tired too. I went from normal barely got sick to frequent illness and symptoms. It’s not a good disease in my opinion it’s one of the worst. I would love an overnight cure I’d probably sell a kidney for one if it came to it but the nature of this virus makes it a very formidable opponent. It’s in a very sensitive area that is not easily penetrated, if they could come up with a way to get in there they could do some damage by hopefully cleaving it and stopping all the symptoms even if the virus exists in the body it’ll be like a dead virus walking inside of us. 

Explain your opinion on why they wouldn't bring a vaccine to market (gen 003) that works as well as valtrex but you wouldn't have to take everyday.... That is a clear advantage over valtrex so if not for financial reasons why didn't they bring it to market after phase 3? Th

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5 hours ago, Taintedgirl said:

But people have worse herpes because of the Halford vaccination

No one got worse herpes, that phrase is just not possible if you understand the nature of the disease and what as done from my understanding the symptoms they experienced is similar to the live attenuated shingles vaccine where the vaccinated areas reactivated and some participants had hsv 1 only and were vaccinated for hsv 2 so if they conduct a blood test prior to vaccine they would show positive for hsv1 only post vaccine hsv1 and 2. This lawsuit honestly is hurdle in the race for a cure. As halford was closest thing we had to an available functional cure.

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2 hours ago, topicmaster1 said:

No one got worse herpes, that phrase is just not possible if you understand the nature of the disease and what as done from my understanding the symptoms they experienced is similar to the live attenuated shingles vaccine where the vaccinated areas reactivated and some participants had hsv 1 only and were vaccinated for hsv 2 so if they conduct a blood test prior to vaccine they would show positive for hsv1 only post vaccine hsv1 and 2. This lawsuit honestly is hurdle in the race for a cure. As halford was closest thing we had to an available functional cure.

Lol worse herpes = worse symptoms. You’re incorrect in saying only the test showed things were off these people symptoms were worsened hence the lawsuit. 

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On 5/20/2018 at 11:32 AM, topicmaster1 said:

No one got worse herpes, that phrase is just not possible if you understand the nature of the disease and what as done from my understanding the symptoms they experienced is similar to the live attenuated shingles vaccine where the vaccinated areas reactivated and some participants had hsv 1 only and were vaccinated for hsv 2 so if they conduct a blood test prior to vaccine they would show positive for hsv1 only post vaccine hsv1 and 2. This lawsuit honestly is hurdle in the race for a cure. As halford was closest thing we had to an available functional cure.

Actually, you can get worse herpes.  You can contract HSV2 in a second location even after you have been innoculated in a primary location for several years.  Two breakout locations vs. 1 = worse.  

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Actually that has not happened with HSV-2. After a HSV-2 infection your chances of a HSV-1 infection are 1 in 50,000.

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