[Misleading] SCIENTISTS CLOSE TO THE INVENTION OF A VACCINE AGAINST HERPES

[Forest]

https://sivtimes.com/scientists-close-to-the-invention-of-a-vaccine-against-herpes/30198/

[undertsun]

This is live attenuated vaccine with therapeutic potential, it is very recently published.

Sounds nice!

Here goes the author's publication: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29655629/?i=1&from=Kousoulas KG[Author]

[moialbalushi]

I hope they find funding 

[valleynovascotia]

In the article it says scientists are close to developing a "cure for genital warts caused by herpes" iv'e seen this article awhile ago it actually legit?

 

[WilsoInAus]

It is legit if poorly reported upon by the writer (perhaps aimed more at getting people to read the article and absorb the surrounding advertising).

In the end, these are mice and guinea pig experiments conducted by many virology departments in our universities internationally. It would be rare for a virology department not to have at least one of its experiments or PhD students for example focused on HSV. It is all good stuff to be sure, but unfortunately perhaps 99% of these have no intention to progress forward to commercial application in humans.

[Chicagonow]

Is it good new wilson

[WilsoInAus]

I don't really see anything new as such. The fundamentals are there that have been observed for over a decade. That is, attenuated HSV viruses can be expelled by the body and not achieve latency inside cells and they generate immune responses that may grant a degree of immunity. This study for example looked at the immune cells present vaginally. This differs from say Halfords approach where the blood borne antibodies were examined and differs from Fraser's approach which looked for various effective Tcells. This is not to say that other vaccines don't result in a broad spectrum immune response vaginally, just that it wasn't part of the immune response observed in the study/trial.

Edited May 23, 2018 by WilsoInAus

[Taintedgirl]

1 hour ago, WilsoInAus said:

It is legit if poorly reported upon by the writer (perhaps aimed more at getting people to read the article and absorb the surrounding advertising).

In the end, these are mice and guinea pig experiments conducted by many virology departments in our universities internationally. It would be rare for a virology department not to have at least one of its experiments or PhD students for example focused on HSV. It is all good stuff to be sure, but unfortunately perhaps 99% of these have no intention to progress forward to commercial application in humans.

I’ve read that over 80% of experiments in rodents like mice don’t end up working in humans. I know it’s not the best method ethically but I wonder if using monkeys in such trials wouldn’t be better in the long term seeing as they share a considerable amount of dna with humans I know cost is a factor in the use of rodents in labs but I would assume the results would be better right? Wilson I’ve never asked but you don’t seem too enthusiastic about all the potential cures and such. Why?

[Evaluate]

What click-bait crap.  These guys tested 9 guinea pigs and this is somehow "close"?  The author of the article is very much misinformed.

[WilsoInAus]

57 minutes ago, Taintedgirl said:

I’ve read that over 80% of experiments in rodents like mice don’t end up working in humans. I know it’s not the best method ethically but I wonder if using monkeys in such trials wouldn’t be better in the long term seeing as they share a considerable amount of dna with humans I know cost is a factor in the use of rodents in labs but I would assume the results would be better right? Wilson I’ve never asked but you don’t seem too enthusiastic about all the potential cures and such. Why?

More that I do not emphasise vaccines and cures in my discussions. Why? Because most everyone with herpes leads a full, active, fun life as it is. That's also true for most everyone coming to this website, most often in the early phases of their knowledge they carry HSV. It feels like many vulnerable people use the 'potential' of an effective treatment/cure as a reason to 'wait' for its emergence and not living their life to its fullest extent in the meanwhile.

That's not to say that there are people here on the website and in the population that wouldn't greatly benefit from the treatment/cure, they sure would. So would people with cancer and a myriad of other bacteria, viruses, diseases etc.

The other issue is that people are thinking that they would benefit from a vaccine (meaning the first of the vaccines to become commercially available as they will). Most will not benefit to much of an extent because their immune system already does a sterling job of it. The initial expectation of vaccine should be focused on prevention and not treatment.

Now and for many years to come, the absolute best treatment and cure remains your body beautiful, your own temple. Respect it in terms of fitness and diet and it will reward you well beyond what will be achieved scientifically in the next decade or more. And it is here now!

[ManagingIllness]

"Scientists are close to creating a vaccine against genital warts caused by herpes virus." lololololol

[ManagingIllness]

Also, please note that amazing guinea pig results occurred with seemingly countless past vaccines, and none have been brought to market. Most recently, GEN-003 failed, and it had amazing animal results, including guinea pig. In fact, the only HSV vaccines that have moved beyond animal stages are ones that did exceedingly well at these less-costly stages. In other words, every failure we have had so far has done well with animals, so any vaccine that works well with animals may very well end up in the vaccine graveyard.

[moialbalushi]

9 minutes ago, ManagingIllness said:

Also, please note that amazing guinea pig results occurred with seemingly countless past vaccines, and none have been brought to market. Most recently, GEN-003 failed, and it had amazing animal results, including guinea pig. In fact, the only HSV vaccines that have moved beyond animal stages are ones that did exceedingly well at these less-costly stages. In other words, every failure we have had so far has done well with animals, so any vaccine that works well with animals may very well end up in the vaccine graveyard.

I think that the writter is stupid cuz he/she mixed up between hsv and hpv. We need to search and check if there IS this company that the writter is talkiing about. And let’s see what happens later with them. 

[Jimmyjimmyhuapua]

Then later they corrected the news. Writer made a mistake there but its for herpes not hpv

[moialbalushi]

2 hours ago, Jimmyjimmyhuapua said:

Then later they corrected the news. Writer made a mistake there but its for herpes not hpv

Got a link for the corrected one ? Thank you 

[Jimmyjimmyhuapua]

On 5/25/2018 at 4:24 PM, moialbalushi said:

Got a link for the corrected one ? Thank you 

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/longawaited-herpes-vaccines-could-be-here-soon/  here she wrote firstly warts also but then she corrected it

[Hockeyawesome1]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/2167935-hope-for-herpes-vaccine-after-it-wipes-out-virus-in-monkeys/amp/

[hunger4more]

On 6/1/2018 at 11:54 PM, Hockeyawesome1 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/2167935-hope-for-herpes-vaccine-after-it-wipes-out-virus-in-monkeys/amp/

Whats the name of this project? Says i need to subscribe to read further.