Tingling and feeling weird there

[Bigurll50]

Help I'm new to my Hsv2 I had one valtriz episode and I'm ok so far it's been about 2 months but I just feel all weird and tingling I wanna know does this stop and do I supposed to take meds everyday or use special soap down there I'm so discussed and confused why me I tried to be a gurl I had sex protected but this was before I found out now I'm scared as hell if has anything but so far nothing I did not have any other symptoms I also feel very dry there is this all normal somebody help me .please

[Feeling Normal Again]

Tingling and any changes in discharge are both normal. 

Length and severity of symptoms varies person to person though.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/genital-herpes/symptoms-causes/syc-20356161

I think the Mayo Clinic's symptoms and explanation of symptoms list is the most extensive, detailed, and accurate I've seen. 

I love that it explains how different each case can be, And how some people have ongoing or recurring symptoms.

 

 

Edited June 5, 2018 by Feeling Normal Again

[Divon]

"Burning and itching where the infection first entered your body." Hmmm.. Herpes itching is pretty damn confusing to me and every time I speak with a skin doctor they always say "No, the itching comes at the area where a lession is about to pop up." At the same time we will have a lot of guys including me saying that they experience itching in the root of their penis from time to time. To sometimes feel itching by the root of your penis is relatively common for all people as far as I know however, wether or not they have herpes.

So where the infection entered your body. I´m assuming they mean where HSV was transmitted to you?  While lessions are supposed to be very common by the root, I have never detected any clear lessions by my root but that is the part that itches the most on my penis. There is one same spot that always gets irritated for me, the "throat" of the penis and this is also where I have had lessions. I believe that it is logical for this spot to be where the virus entered my body. However, that spot doesn´t itch much although burning there is very common.

[Feeling Normal Again]

5 hours ago, Divon said:

"Burning and itching where the infection first entered your body." Hmmm.. Herpes itching is pretty damn confusing to me and every time I speak with a skin doctor they always say "No, the itching comes at the area where a lession is about to pop up." At the same time we will have a lot of guys including me saying that they experience itching in the root of their penis from time to time. To sometimes feel itching by the root of your penis is relatively common for all people as far as I know however, wether or not they have herpes.

So where the infection entered your body. I´m assuming they mean where HSV was transmitted to you?  While lessions are supposed to be very common by the root, I have never detected any clear lessions by my root but that is the part that itches the most on my penis. There is one same spot that always gets irritated for me, the "throat" of the penis and this is also where I have had lessions. I believe that it is logical for this spot to be where the virus entered my body. However, that spot doesn´t itch much although burning there is very common.

Agree, it i can be confusing. Because doctors and nurses will argue that itching is at site of OB only. But the guy I caught from would have intense all over body itching before OBs. 

The first symptom I had was extreme all over body itching. Felt like I was being attacked. I remember thinking "Oh great, I just caught whatever he has." Unaware at the time he had hsv. But intense itching was always followed by OB. 

Since then, I've read through plenty of others with the same all over intense body itching or random itching, burning or tingling in random places. 

That's why I like that Mayo Clinic list; it covers a wide range of symptoms that a lot of doctors, nurse practitioners, and physician assistants seem to be ignorant about.

Edited June 5, 2018 by Feeling Normal Again
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[Dying2Live]

HSV doesn't obey nearly as many rules as doctors are taught based on their archaic academic texts. If you need advice interpreting symptoms, you should certainly prioritize listening to people that also have HSV, preferrably of the same sex as you are, over the so called experts.

Quite frankly, if you do some research among more recent research articles and patient stories, you will realize that can cause all kinds of neurological/systemic symptoms despite being labeled as a skin disease by doctors. HPV is a skin disease. HSV is a nerve disease that usually only causes *visible* on the skin and mucous membranes, whether at the site of initial infection or elsewhere.

[Divon]

Alright, while all of this may be true what exactly is happening in the nerves when we get this herpes itching? I´ve heard many theories but its quite confusing.

[WilsoInAus]

2 hours ago, Dying2Live said:

HSV doesn't obey nearly as many rules as doctors are taught based on their archaic academic texts. If you need advice interpreting symptoms, you should certainly prioritize listening to people that also have HSV, preferrably of the same sex as you are, over the so called experts.

Quite frankly, if you do some research among more recent research articles and patient stories, you will realize that can cause all kinds of neurological/systemic symptoms despite being labeled as a skin disease by doctors. HPV is a skin disease. HSV is a nerve disease that usually only causes *visible* on the skin and mucous membranes, whether at the site of initial infection or elsewhere.

I feel that is being disingenuous. You have a myriad of symptoms that do align with what many people new to the site have. Yet you do not have herpes!

It would be great that instead of advising people to fear herpes, to assume they have herpes which only serves your purpose, if you could use your vast knowledge of symptoms that are NOT herpes related to give people courage to find their diagnosis based on what has actually happened to THEM.

That's terrible advice to suggest people should only interact with the same sex and with HSV! How narrow and exclusive. What next? Only talk to those in your own country? Blacks only talk to blacks? Jews only talk to Jews? Under His Eye!!

[Scooby2112]

5 hours ago, Dying2Live said:

HSV doesn't obey nearly as many rules as doctors are taught based on their archaic academic texts. If you need advice interpreting symptoms, you should certainly prioritize listening to people that also have HSV, preferrably of the same sex as you are, over the so called experts.

Quite frankly, if you do some research among more recent research articles and patient stories, you will realize that can cause all kinds of neurological/systemic symptoms despite being labeled as a skin disease by doctors. HPV is a skin disease. HSV is a nerve disease that usually only causes *visible* on the skin and mucous membranes, whether at the site of initial infection or elsewhere.

I disagree with the statement that this is. Nerve disease.  Hsv lives in the nerves (seeks refuge in the nerves) but reacts in the body and replicated in the skin.  That is why it’s a skin disease.  Where it hides in the body is irrelevant.  

Just my opinion.  

Edited June 6, 2018 by Scooby2112

[Divon]

I hate these debates so I call the following : Nerve travelling reoccuring skin diseas/condition. We could add contagious as a word there also if we want.

Again though, I have no idea why we feel random itching. I mean I get that its something with the nerves but I dont get exactly what is going on so if anyone has good studies on this please share them.

I heard on one forum that someone suggested that its the virus breaking holes in the nerves causing the nerves to misfire their signals. Another theory is the immune system is attacking the virus somewhere and we feel it. Some help please?

Important to remember though that this itching feels around 10 times worse for us when we associate it to herpes. It goes from "bah wtf why do I have to scratch myself so much today?" to "Holy shit how Am I going to live with this virus?". Try to think of how different those two reactions are to the exact same symptom with the only difference is that we are relating it something that we fear and hate.

Edited June 6, 2018 by Divon

[35hope]

On 6/5/2018 at 6:21 PM, Divon said:

. It goes from "bah wtf why do I have to scratch myself so much today?" to "Holy shit how Am I going to live with this virus?". Try to think of how different those two reactions are to the exact same symptom with the only difference is that we re relating it something that we fear and hate.

having poison oak for a week or two is one thing but itchy everyday is a true nightmare imo

[Quest]

For itching I like Zinc Sulfate, I make a batch cheap. What happened first of all, I was chasing the ob up my spine and then it settled down after it was in my system for a while. It cut the itching right away.

Zinc Lactate is supposed to be better for hsv II, but it has some limitations as far as storage is concerned.  What z. sulfate did for me is it stopped the itching almost instantly. I do know from DontJuans thread on zinc sulfate he had some nice science in there. It is my go to for itch. Do not use around the nasal area. You will lose sense of smell. I bought 5 lbs for 16.00 on amazon, but I really would love to order the zinc lactate from a chemical company.  Zinc Gluconate is better for hsv I according to studies in that thread. Don't spray it on your whole body. That is too much zinc to ingest. I had the spray by the toilet and I would just spray myself every time I went to tinkle.

Edited June 7, 2018 by Quest

[Divon]

2 hours ago, Quest said:

For itching I like Zinc Sulfate, I make a batch cheap. What happened first of all, I was chasing the ob up my spine and then it settled down after it was in my system for a while. It cut the itching right away.

Zinc Lactate is supposed to be better for hsv II, but it has some limitations as far as storage is concerned.  What z. sulfate did for me is it stopped the itching almost instantly. I do know from DontJuans thread on zinc sulfate he had some nice science in there. It is my go to for itch. Do not use around the nasal area. You will lose sense of smell. I bought 5 lbs for 16.00 on amazon, but I really would love to order the zinc lactate from a chemical company.  Zinc Gluconate is better for hsv I according to studies in that thread. Don't spray it on your whole body. That is too much zinc to ingest. I had the spray by the toilet and I would just spray myself every time I went to tinkle.

So you mean u had zinc sulfphate in spray form?

[Quest]

Yes @Divon I make a spray out of it. Get a small mister that is used for anything else that you don't use anymore and pour the contents out and add 1/2 t to start with an amber 60 ml bottle from the pharmacy. They will give it to you free. The kind you dose cough meds with. Start off with 60 ml of water then put in the 1/2 t of zinc and shake the bottle and let it sit for 30 min until dissolved then pour into a sm spray bottle that you have or buy a fine mister from the dollar store. I don't consider the science behind it to stop obs, but I can tell ya that I think it castrates hsv at the surface temporarily. I will warn you that hsv will come to the surface someplace else. And never ever use it near the nose or on lips because that is how people lost their olfactory when the zinc spray craze was huge. CVS makes a spray that has some form of zinc lactate and zinc gluconate/glycinate combo. They are often out of stock. I am guessing I am not the only one who loves it. It is 10.00 but I got tired of buying it and wanted to try zinc sulfate, because of dontJuans claim that he was leaving because that was his answer that he had been looking for. He helped quite a few before he left. It does work for me and it does not get rid of hsv altogether, especially- if the breakout is already in progress. 

https://www.amazon.com/Zinc-Sulfate-Monohydrate-Powder-Pounds/dp/B07BP11BQ1/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1528414732&sr=8-8&keywords=zinc+sulfate+bulk

Edited June 8, 2018 by Quest

[Dying2Live]

On 6/5/2018 at 7:10 PM, Scooby2112 said:

I disagree with the statement that this is. Nerve disease.  Hsv lives in the nerves (seeks refuge in the nerves) but reacts in the body and replicated in the skin.  That is why it’s a skin disease.  Where it hides in the body is irrelevant.  

Just my opinion.  

Neuralgia is nerve pain. I feel pain from my nerves being infected, whether or not the virus is active at those times or if it's my immune system is irrelevant. Loads of people on here suffer neuralgia from HSV, some far more frequently than skin outbreak symptoms. Not to mention all of the people who get headaches and other neuro symptoms during outbreaks. If you only get skin symptoms, I envy you. A skin disease shouldn't be able to do the damage HSV can do.

[Dying2Live]

On 6/5/2018 at 5:31 PM, WilsoInAus said:

I feel that is being disingenuous. You have a myriad of symptoms that do align with what many people new to the site have. Yet you do not have herpes!

It would be great that instead of advising people to fear herpes, to assume they have herpes which only serves your purpose, if you could use your vast knowledge of symptoms that are NOT herpes related to give people courage to find their diagnosis based on what has actually happened to THEM.

That's terrible advice to suggest people should only interact with the same sex and with HSV! How narrow and exclusive. What next? Only talk to those in your own country? Blacks only talk to blacks? Jews only talk to Jews? Under His Eye!!

Wilso, you really need to cease with telling people they don't have a dangerous disease simply because it doesn't fall into the 80% midsection of the bell curve, and that is being generous with the number.

I think you're confusing terms here. I said nothing about not interacting with people. I advised placing greater value on the experiences of people with the same HSV type and the same sex as you have compared to doctors, etc. In other words, real world experiences are much more helpful in offering guidance and insight than academic theory. Would you ask a female for real world experiential advice on why your balls hurt? Exactly my point. Not sure why you read so much into it.

[WilsoInAus]

1 hour ago, Dying2Live said:

Wilso, you really need to cease with telling people they don't have a dangerous disease simply because it doesn't fall into the 80% midsection of the bell curve, and that is being generous with the number.

I think you're confusing terms here. I said nothing about not interacting with people. I advised placing greater value on the experiences of people with the same HSV type and the same sex as you have compared to doctors, etc. In other words, real world experiences are much more helpful in offering guidance and insight than academic theory. Would you ask a female for real world experiential advice on why your balls hurt? Exactly my point. Not sure why you read so much into it.

Not at all. It is MORE dangerous to assume you have the virus than the other way around. It is you who need to cease telling people they might have the virus when they do not. It is you who needs to lift yourself to tell more people they do NOT have the virus when it is in their interests based on data to do so. Of more importance is yourself. Your only road to life fulfilment is to believe that you do not have herpes. What do you have to fear by doing so?

I don't necessarily disagree that REAL world experiences are helpful. They are neither better or worse than medical or academic theory. They are helpful. There is no need to place greater or lesser weight before absorbing such information. However many people are recounting UNREAL experiences when it comes to herpes, like yourself.

Yes I would and have asked a female for advice on why my balls hurt. It was a virus, and thanks to her expertise, knowledge and experience of having helped hundreds of men in a similar position, my large apple sized testicle was healed. Are you saying I should have asked you? Maybe it was herpes? :) 

[WilsoInAus]

2 hours ago, Dying2Live said:

Neuralgia is nerve pain. I feel pain from my nerves being infected, whether or not the virus is active at those times or if it's my immune system is irrelevant. Loads of people on here suffer neuralgia from HSV, some far more frequently than skin outbreak symptoms. Not to mention all of the people who get headaches and other neuro symptoms during outbreaks. If you only get skin symptoms, I envy you. A skin disease shouldn't be able to do the damage HSV can do.

Your case is important. You have never had herpes detected in any form. You are an exemplar for they fact that these symptoms occur to all peoples all over the world with and without herpes, to which it is entirely unrelated.

[WilsoInAus]

2 hours ago, Dying2Live said:

Neuralgia is nerve pain. I feel pain from my nerves being infected, whether or not the virus is active at those times or if it's my immune system is irrelevant. Loads of people on here suffer neuralgia from HSV, some far more frequently than skin outbreak symptoms. Not to mention all of the people who get headaches and other neuro symptoms during outbreaks. If you only get skin symptoms, I envy you. A skin disease shouldn't be able to do the damage HSV can do.

No, neuralgia is not just nerve pain at all. In fact the most common symptoms of neuralgia include numbness, not pain. 

[Divon]

Something is very wrong if herpes is causing your nerves to give you a constant pain. Im not sure what pain you are even refering to but Im guessing its not just the heat / burn sensations and stuff that you are refering to. Sometimes when a part of the body is irritated there will be a sort of pulsing poin in that area, that is very common with herpes.

Some explaination on what exactly people mean with this nerve pain would be nice. Im pretty sure its something that is not very common to have with herpes though while random itching is extremly common on the other hand.