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    • Scooby2112
      Not a lot to go on.  UTI symptoms are mostly during the initial outbreak.  Not during recurrences.     therefore it doesn’t sound like herpes since it is only UTI symptoms.      
    • Scooby2112
      I assume you gave oral sex to whomever back 20 days ago?   hsv2 is very unlikely to infect the oral cavity and if so, unlikely to show symptoms.     also transmitting to thick skin like face skin is harder than the lips/ mucous membranes.     I don’t believe this looks like herpes.  They look filled with pus like a pimple /ingrown hair.  
    • JeffBridges
      Hi, After getting tested for hsv2, my results were “indeterminate” and I was negative for all other diseases. I had protected sex ~20 days ago. Just a few days ago, these bumps appeared on my chin and over the course of 2 days have disappeared. Are these herpes? thank you in advance
    • lennyblastoff
      Im glad you commented not about the same old song though. We'll see how far they go with the research Dr. Deepak Shukla and his team have been studying bx795 for the last 2-3 years dropping a study every year or so since 2018. This is only they're second one on hsv2 I believe. Also Im sure it wouldn't be impossible for those that have hsv to crowdfound and have research done for us to answer some question kinda like all these breast cancer  or how we've done for fred hutch who asked 50,000 initially and then 100k to test an actual vaccine not an already somewhat of a common compound.
    • Just a human being
      I’ve never been able to fully accept such logic although I believe there is an element to it and absolutely there are financial drivers at play. Not when you’ve witnessed the psychology on the ground to my thinking anyhow... I get the expression of your dichotomy... I was watching a clip awhile back about a naturopath fighting a massive ban on natural supplements by the FDA. He stated from his communications the FDA simply seemed to trust Pharmaceutical companies more. Many of them would have HSV...  I had a great visual analogy on it posted here. Unfortunately it got censored. Possibly as it was in the cure section and it insulted the allopathic kiddies, which wasn’t my intention, possibly maybe due to the thoughtstream in the majority of society that most treatment options should come from the pharmacological approach...so might try my luck on a re-post of it in my grassroots section.  That said I don’t have the rest of my life to study it... too busy... And I am meant to be taking a break from this forum...
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viralfrog

Over 4 Years with HSV-2, Symptoms Keep Getting Worse with Non-Stop Outbreaks Despite Suppressive Therapy (Need HELP!)

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jmherped
1 minute ago, WilsoInAus said:

I think we have reached the end of the line. A person truly infected with HSV-2 would never behave like this. Truly appalling.

It is obvious now from those posts that your story has the substance of a tissue. It has changed and contorted multiple times. All of that is no matter. You have never tested positive for HSV-2.

It is time for you to leave this website and find something else to do for your benefit and the benefit of our readers who can now readily see the truth.

Because the truth is real. People are real.

Good luck on your journey.

 

The truth is Wilson, you are a nobody.   Maybe that’s your problem, you wish you were a doctor.  I am sure such a psychological disorder probably does exist.  Perhaps your sociopathic trolling has exposed your real issue then.   Now why don’t you just piss off and stop torturing people of this forum with your incessant and incredibly aggravating trolling.  I have asked you dozens of times not to reply to my posts with your repeated and incredibly stupid accusations regarding my health status.  You have a serious and real psychological disorder.  It’s time for you get some medical attention at the psych ward buddy.  

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WilsoInAus

@jmherped I will response to every single one of your posts until the truth shines like the beacon it always is.

I have asked you dozens of times to stop spreading lies and misinformation. You seem incapable of this given present levels of maturity, but we are all here to support you to good health!

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jmherped
2 minutes ago, WilsoInAus said:

@jmherped I will response to every single one of your posts until the truth shines like the beacon it always is.

I have asked you dozens of times to stop spreading lies and misinformation. You seem incapable of this given present levels of maturity, but we are all here to support you to good health!

You are a truly sick individual.  Get help.

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viralfrog
On 10/18/2019 at 1:30 AM, Mikeike3 said:

I'm trying valtrex 1g a day. I get lip prodrome nearly every day of the week and always have a pustule breakout above my lip but connected to it.  Dermatologist said it was behaving like hsv due to burning and tingling as well as sun activation.  I get at least one break out a week, have constant nerve pain in my thighs and glans, as well as random penile redness. 

Amena-relief is on the way. Going to try 1000mg valtrex and 100 or 50 MG amena. I thought one person here was trying 50.  I also ordered bht and am planning on trying that.

My total testosterone dropped from being normal in March (450) to low in September (250).  Low testosterone can also cause more outbreaks.  I wonder if hsv was designed in a lab as a way to lower reproduction, because studies show it targets the ovaries and also lowers sperm count.

I'm also planning to see a urologist to help with my hormone issues. 

 

Low testosterone is no good for anyone, I recommend to get that treated if it remains the case. 

8 hours ago, jmherped said:

Just reading this thread again.  I was thinking of taking a shot of sustanon to kickstart a new training regimen.  I caught my herpes in Thailand like vfrog, and have experienced this non-stop hell of never ending mouth burning, fatigue, fever, and lesions at back of mouth.  I stopped training and staid indoors most of the summmer as i live in cabo, Sonoran desert, extremely hot and sunny.  Have not been sick nearly as much since i quit swimming.  It is the only thing good i have left in life and want to get back in the water now that the north pacific gyre is starting to dominate again.  Just wondering if a few shots of juice might help keep the virus at bay as i try to get back into living a healthy life again.  

I strongly don't recommend to take one shot of sustanon at any time. TRT is for life, temporary use only causes further problems. However, if your testosterone levels are actually low, go for it! But just remember it will be for life. Once you ruin your natural production, there is no going back. 

8 hours ago, jmherped said:

Viralfrog, fyi, I recently tried klonopin during a very depressive run and to my surprise i found that it suppresses my herpes more potently than anything, including valtrex.  I had a box and literally could not get an outbreak on this stuff regardless of how hard i tried.  I am off of it now as it is total zombie juice.  One pill will turn you into a zombie for two days.  I can’t function on the stuff.  It does put the brakes on my hsv though, and reduced my tongue burning to levels I haven’t experienced in years.  I am going to try to get my life back together, but will keep the kpin on hand.  Maybe alternate workout days with zombie days.  Just though i would tell you as our misery seems so similar in its intensity and debilitating symptoms.

I've had similar experiences with Xanax, but these types of drugs are not suitable for daily use. They are known to help with every disease as they will just cause you to not give a shit about what's happening. 

8 hours ago, WilsoInAus said:

No I’m sorry you have NEVER swabbed positive for HSV-2. Fact.

You cannot be diagnosed with throat herpes without a swab.

Stop trolling and fuck off. No one has time for this nonsense.

Hey Wilson, please keep this pointless arguing out of this thread. It's for my personal timeline on my progress trying to beat constant outbreaks. 

I'm probably the only one here that has the slightest bit of respect for your approach, as it it very important to make sure one has HSV to start with. But adding this shit into every single thread ruins them, because when you're researching stuff on this forum you end up having to read through multiple pages of you arguing with someone you don't believe has HSV. It doesn't add any value. If you mention your doubt one time, we can see it and read it, consider it ourselves. But no need to keep it going and going. 

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WilsoInAus

Hey @viralfrog I don’t disagree with you, but a polluted thread is a polluted thread until it isn’t. I will think about your comments.

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Mikeike3
17 minutes ago, WilsoInAus said:

Hey @viralfrog I don’t disagree with you, but a polluted thread is a polluted thread until it isn’t. I will think about your comments.

VIRAL said what I was getting at, just more eloquently. I enjoy our discussions and appreciate a good ribbing but we tend to ruin multiple threads and it chases people away.  Many of us are guilty of trading barbs over and over again or repeating the same arguments 

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jmherped
4 hours ago, viralfrog said:

Low testosterone is no good for anyone, I recommend to get that treated if it remains the case. 

I strongly don't recommend to take one shot of sustanon at any time. TRT is for life, temporary use only causes further problems. However, if your testosterone levels are actually low, go for it! But just remember it will be for life. Once you ruin your natural production, there is no going back. 

I've had similar experiences with Xanax, but these types of drugs are not suitable for daily use. They are known to help with every disease as they will just cause you to not give a shit about what's happening. 

Hey Wilson, please keep this pointless arguing out of this thread. It's for my personal timeline on my progress trying to beat constant outbreaks. 

I'm probably the only one here that has the slightest bit of respect for your approach, as it it very important to make sure one has HSV to start with. But adding this shit into every single thread ruins them, because when you're researching stuff on this forum you end up having to read through multiple pages of you arguing with someone you don't believe has HSV. It doesn't add any value. If you mention your doubt one time, we can see it and read it, consider it ourselves. But no need to keep it going and going. 

thanks for the feedback VF.  Do you think even just once cycle of sustanon, for say 8 weeks would lead to a lifetime commitment.  I don't think I'm low in Testosterone, but I am sure that my levels have taken a hit from this infection.  I started microdosing with T3 and find it helps a bit, but I am looking for something that will allow me to workout again.  Was hoping the sustanon might help me get up to speed and in better condition faster while minimizing the fatigue/fever that comes with the training.  Do you think that just intermittently using HCG might be more effective for someone with normal tes levels but wants a boost?     

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Just now, jmherped said:

thanks for the feedback VF.  Do you think even just once cycle of sustanon, for say 8 weeks would lead to a lifetime commitment.  I don't think I'm low in Testosterone, but I am sure that my levels have taken a hit from this infection.  I started microdosing with T3 and find it helps a bit, but I am looking for something that will allow me to workout again.  Was hoping the sustanon might help me get up to speed and in better condition faster while minimizing the fatigue/fever that comes with the training.  Do you think that just intermittently using HCG might be more effective for someone with normal tes levels but wants a boost?     

Actually, the T3 might be  helping a lot.  I've only been taking it for a month, just microdose in the morning, 16-32 mics.  I don't really feel any difference physically, but I have been getting fewer breakouts lately.  That said, I completely gave up on exercising and just sit indoors at my desk all day now.  The real test will be when I get back on my feet.  I can't live like this, I feel like I'm dying.  I have to train.  

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jmherped

welp, whatever it was, I'm not going to be able to afford it.  I can't even afford amenialief.

 

In February 2013, Yahoo! Sports reported that Braun's name appeared three times in records of Biogenesis of America, a Coral Gables clinic alleged to have distributed performance-enhancing drugs to a number of Major League Baseball players who tested positive for banned substances.[189] One entry noted that Braun owed the clinic between $20,000 and $30,000.[189] Braun's name was not listed next to any specific PEDs, unlike some of the other players mentioned in the records.[189] Braun released a statement maintaining that his attorneys had retained the clinic's operator, Anthony Bosch, as a consultant during his appeal of his positive drug test the previous season, and denied any further dealings with the clinic.[189]

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Skiracer321
On 10/24/2018 at 4:11 AM, Quest said:

I will help if you are still here. :)

Hi Quest i spoke to you a while ago.  Found put yesterday i have hsv2.  Thanks for listening before☺

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viralfrog
20 hours ago, jmherped said:

thanks for the feedback VF.  Do you think even just once cycle of sustanon, for say 8 weeks would lead to a lifetime commitment.  I don't think I'm low in Testosterone, but I am sure that my levels have taken a hit from this infection.  I started microdosing with T3 and find it helps a bit, but I am looking for something that will allow me to workout again.  Was hoping the sustanon might help me get up to speed and in better condition faster while minimizing the fatigue/fever that comes with the training.  Do you think that just intermittently using HCG might be more effective for someone with normal tes levels but wants a boost?     

I don't think one 8 week cycle of Sustanon will lead to a lifetime commitment, but it will surely do more harm than good. You can find lots of information on bodybuilding forums. Basically, you will supress your own production in those 8 weeks completely. You will take maybe 4+ weeks to recover from the cycle, whilst feeling down and losing anything that you have gained. 8 weeks on Sustanon is not enough to make any significant difference. 

Bodybuilders typically do 12+ week cycles with high doses of multiple steroid compounds for maximal muscle gain. Lets say during such cycle you gain 8kg of muscle mass. After the cycle, you will take other compounds (post cycle therapy) to assist with recovery and might still lose around 50% of what you gained. After you have finally recovered, you might end up with a few extra kgs of permanent muscle. But is it worth it, knowing the risk of permanent hormonal issues and probably guaranteed extra outbreaks? I doubt it. 

I would strongly suggest to measure your total and free T levels and after that make one decision:

-A: your levels are sufficient - don't do it

-B: your levels are not optimal - start TRT and feel better for life.

20 hours ago, jmherped said:

Actually, the T3 might be  helping a lot.  I've only been taking it for a month, just microdose in the morning, 16-32 mics.  I don't really feel any difference physically, but I have been getting fewer breakouts lately.  That said, I completely gave up on exercising and just sit indoors at my desk all day now.  The real test will be when I get back on my feet.  I can't live like this, I feel like I'm dying.  I have to train.  

I can imagine how you feel as someone who trains very hard as well. I almost lost my motivation completely but didn't give up despite feeling like crap. 

19 hours ago, jmherped said:

VF, any idea what the medication this baseball player's doctor might have been?

https://throughthefencebaseball.com/ryan-braun-rumors-are-swirling-failed-test-could-be-linked-to-std-herpes/

I have no idea but probably some unusual experiments. 

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On 11/1/2019 at 5:18 AM, viralfrog said:

I don't think one 8 week cycle of Sustanon will lead to a lifetime commitment, but it will surely do more harm than good. You can find lots of information on bodybuilding forums. Basically, you will supress your own production in those 8 weeks completely. You will take maybe 4+ weeks to recover from the cycle, whilst feeling down and losing anything that you have gained. 8 weeks on Sustanon is not enough to make any significant difference. 

Bodybuilders typically do 12+ week cycles with high doses of multiple steroid compounds for maximal muscle gain. Lets say during such cycle you gain 8kg of muscle mass. After the cycle, you will take other compounds (post cycle therapy) to assist with recovery and might still lose around 50% of what you gained. After you have finally recovered, you might end up with a few extra kgs of permanent muscle. But is it worth it, knowing the risk of permanent hormonal issues and probably guaranteed extra outbreaks? I doubt it. 

I would strongly suggest to measure your total and free T levels and after that make one decision:

-A: your levels are sufficient - don't do it

-B: your levels are not optimal - start TRT and feel better for life.

I can imagine how you feel as someone who trains very hard as well. I almost lost my motivation completely but didn't give up despite feeling like crap. 

I have no idea but probably some unusual experiments. 

Thanks for your reply.  I decided against the testosterone.  I will stick with dhea for now and perhaps some research peptides when i can afford them.   Also ended my experiment with klonopin.  Shit is horrible.  

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Mikeike3
1 hour ago, jmherped said:

Thanks for your reply.  I decided against the testosterone.  I will stick with dhea for now and perhaps some research peptides when i can afford them.   Also ended my experiment with klonopin.  Shit is horrible.  

@viralfrog

both of you - my total testosterone has dropped in half in 6 months - unsure why.  It was 463 March 2019, then  250 in Sept, now 210 in November.  My urologist wants me to try HCG injections, but I am worried about triggering outbreaks due to Arginine / contaminants.  I have read of others having outbreaks due to HCG diet/supplementation, and maybe one or two others who had no issue. 

My goal is to be able to have kids.  I can't keep it up due to failure to maintain - looks like I have a venous leak on top of pelvic floor issues and on top of low t-levels.  Doc was hoping HCG would fix it over time. 

Any thoughts on this?  My guess is whatever virus I caught last year (HPV/HSV/VZV/etc) is killing my t-levels, but this is just a guess.  It could also have to do with my terrible insomnia.

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20 hours ago, Mikeike3 said:

@viralfrog

both of you - my total testosterone has dropped in half in 6 months - unsure why.  It was 463 March 2019, then  250 in Sept, now 210 in November.  My urologist wants me to try HCG injections, but I am worried about triggering outbreaks due to Arginine / contaminants.  I have read of others having outbreaks due to HCG diet/supplementation, and maybe one or two others who had no issue. 

My goal is to be able to have kids.  I can't keep it up due to failure to maintain - looks like I have a venous leak on top of pelvic floor issues and on top of low t-levels.  Doc was hoping HCG would fix it over time. 

Any thoughts on this?  My guess is whatever virus I caught last year (HPV/HSV/VZV/etc) is killing my t-levels, but this is just a guess.  It could also have to do with my terrible insomnia.

My first year was the worst, the terrible fatigue.  I have aged badly on account of this never ending herpes attack.  I have not been tested but I know my thyroid and testosterone levels took a hit from this virus.  wilson the troll will soon pipe in with some bullshit, but you can just do a search in the pubmed databases and read the science.  I've read hundreds upon hundreds of herpes studies, and indeed it does knock your thyroid levels down.  I have an online Doctor I talk to every three months for valtrex refill, he is based out of Los Angeles.  He said the science does indicate that taking T3 can fight the herpes, though it is off label and they cannot prescribe it for herpes infections.  I bought a bottle of it and take just a micro dose each day, it's been over a month now, and I do seem to be fighting the virus better.  A 50% drop in test sounds pretty crazy though.  I am not an expert so I would definitely seek out a specialist to look into that for you.  There is no doubt my testosterone levels took a hit from the nasty strain of hsv-2 I picked up in Thailand, but I would say ten percent max, just guessing based on how I feel compared to pre-infection.  I'm definitely lower and want to boost it back up.  The T3 microdosing does seem to be helping, but I haven't done any bloodwork to confirm that.  I wouldn't worry about arginine though.  I think the whole arginine thing is bs, it might actually help you fight herpes.  

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Skiracer321
22 hours ago, jmherped said:

Thanks for your reply.  I decided against the testosterone.  I will stick with dhea for now and perhaps some research peptides when i can afford them.   Also ended my experiment with klonopin.  Shit is horrible.  

I did testosterone therapy.  Caused chest psins for months after doing it for 4 treatnents.  Fuck me no good.  

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1 minute ago, Skiracer321 said:

I did testosterone therapy.  Caused chest psins for months after doing it for 4 treatnents.  Fuck me no good.  

I think peptides such as igf-1 and selank could help.  I'm looking to move to get out of mexico and back over to Asia, so not sure where I would get it over there.  

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7 hours ago, jmherped said:

My first year was the worst, the terrible fatigue.  I have aged badly on account of this never ending herpes attack.  I have not been tested but I know my thyroid and testosterone levels took a hit from this virus.  wilson the troll will soon pipe in with some bullshit, but you can just do a search in the pubmed databases and read the science.  I've read hundreds upon hundreds of herpes studies, and indeed it does knock your thyroid levels down.  I have an online Doctor I talk to every three months for valtrex refill, he is based out of Los Angeles.  He said the science does indicate that taking T3 can fight the herpes, though it is off label and they cannot prescribe it for herpes infections.  I bought a bottle of it and take just a micro dose each day, it's been over a month now, and I do seem to be fighting the virus better.  A 50% drop in test sounds pretty crazy though.  I am not an expert so I would definitely seek out a specialist to look into that for you.  There is no doubt my testosterone levels took a hit from the nasty strain of hsv-2 I picked up in Thailand, but I would say ten percent max, just guessing based on how I feel compared to pre-infection.  I'm definitely lower and want to boost it back up.  The T3 microdosing does seem to be helping, but I haven't done any bloodwork to confirm that.  I wouldn't worry about arginine though.  I think the whole arginine thing is bs, it might actually help you fight herpes.  

thanks - what did you do for hormone testing?  My TSH is actually borderline low - indicating i have a super thyroid.  I will check my T3 but guessing they are already high. 

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jmherped
6 hours ago, Mikeike3 said:

thanks - what did you do for hormone testing?  My TSH is actually borderline low - indicating i have a super thyroid.  I will check my T3 but guessing they are already high. 

I've not done any of that sort of blood work due to finances.  I am going to get it done soon though.  All I can tell you is a few mics of T3 each morning has made me more resilient to never ending horror.  I am in a constant state of breakout.  It just fluctuates from shitty to f'n horrible.   

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3 hours ago, jmherped said:

I've not done any of that sort of blood work due to finances.  I am going to get it done soon though.  All I can tell you is a few mics of T3 each morning has made me more resilient to never ending horror.  I am in a constant state of breakout.  It just fluctuates from shitty to f'n horrible.   

Have you tried a month of amenalief yet? 

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jmherped
9 hours ago, Mikeike3 said:

Have you tried a month of amenalief yet? 

Not yet.  I am waiting for the price to come down to more realistic levels.  

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5 hours ago, jmherped said:

Not yet.  I am waiting for the price to come down to more realistic levels.  

try one month to see if you get any relief ?

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viralfrog
On 11/11/2019 at 2:23 PM, Mikeike3 said:

@viralfrog

both of you - my total testosterone has dropped in half in 6 months - unsure why.  It was 463 March 2019, then  250 in Sept, now 210 in November.  My urologist wants me to try HCG injections, but I am worried about triggering outbreaks due to Arginine / contaminants.  I have read of others having outbreaks due to HCG diet/supplementation, and maybe one or two others who had no issue. 

My goal is to be able to have kids.  I can't keep it up due to failure to maintain - looks like I have a venous leak on top of pelvic floor issues and on top of low t-levels.  Doc was hoping HCG would fix it over time. 

Any thoughts on this?  My guess is whatever virus I caught last year (HPV/HSV/VZV/etc) is killing my t-levels, but this is just a guess.  It could also have to do with my terrible insomnia.

That sounds really low. I recommend to consult an endocrinologist first and if required, get on TRT. Insomnia could be a side effect of low T too. If you want to have kids later, you can always freeze sperm before starting TRT, so you can still have kids later. 

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Hey @viralfrog

I read some of your posts and I want to tell you that I have gone though a similar experience and come out of it sooo much better.  I had crazy outbreaks and I tried so many things- antivirals, monolaurin, lysine, ozone injections, herbal remedies, and nothing worked until I finally found ways of approaching the illness that worked out for me. In 2015 I had non-stop outbreaks and stabbing pain for a whole year and it continued until I was able to find health professionals who actually knew what they were talking about. Here are some main elements of what I did do: 

Instead of attacking it  from the outside in I learned that something was suppressing my immune system to the point where it could not handle the disease. The virus is a symptom of the underlying problem, not necessarily the cause. 

1. I stopped eating nuts/seeds, protein powder, gelatin/bone broth and all high arginine foods (all have high arginine levels which were giving me nightmarishly painful symptoms). 

2. I stopped eating wheat and dairy- which were contributing to yeast infections which where suppressing my immune system

3. I did an extensive series of blood panels- My primary western medicine care giver said that all of my blood panels were normal and she could do nothing for me except antivirals. I finally saw a functional medicine doctor who was able to analyze the panels with a more sensitive standard range. Based on my results she prescribed a series of supplements which included high quality Vit D, calcium, zinc, b12, etc - after a month and a half on the supplements and cutting out dairy I noticed a DRAMATIC shift in my immune and mental health. My yeast infection went away and my genital outbreaks greatly decreased in frequency. 

4. All of the outbreaks and isolation contributed to severe depression and anxiety- extreme and prolonged emotional stress can shut down parts of your immune system which needed to also be addressed and booted up again in different ways. I took herbal thyroid support for a short time and then consistently went to a therapist that worked for me, and made a concentrated effort to reach out to friends(social isolation is one of the most stressful experiences a human can have).

My genital symptoms went from every day to once every 4 months or so. Im not done- I still have outbreaks on my mouth a lot but I am going to take a provoked heavy metal test and a mycotox test to see if I still have something that is still suppressing my immune system. 

Your healing might look different than mine- but I would encourage you to perhaps find a functional medicine doctor who knows how to analyze blood panels and make appropriate recommendations for your diet, tests you can take, and supplements to reset your immune system. Just as there are western medical doctors that are shitty- there are also naturopaths that are quacks and don't use science-based medicine. I have unfortunately dumped too much money into some of these quacks. But there are functional practitioners out there that have the skills to help, that offer things that many western medical doctors might overlook because they have been conditioned to rely on pharmaceuticals for everything. 

If you want to pm me to skype I can tell you in greater detail about what I did which helped me. I know what its like to feel trapped and maybe my experience will help you.

 

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