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viralfrog

Hey guys,

I just completed a 28 day experiment with Amenalief. 

Dosage: 100mg / day (a pill cut in half) daily with lunch or dinner

Starting point: HSV-2 (tested) since 2014, Non-stop outbreaks since past 6 months with no improvements using antivirals or supplements. 

Other drugs / supplements: Acyclovir 1600-3200mg/day depending on outbreak severity, standard health supplement stack 

Results: no improvement noticed 

Side effects: none 

Alright so I ordered some Amenalief from Mimaki for a test. During this period I logged my symptoms down for every day. 27 out of 28 days I recorded an active outbreak, with symptoms varying from lethargy, redness, itchiness, visible blisters on my penis as well as a swollen lymph node in my groin. I didn't notice any difference after using Amenalief at this dosage. I had very high hopes for this drug after reading others' experiences on the forum, but unfortunately no break through for myself yet. I didn't notice any side effects from this drug. I thought I had some increased lethargy in the beginning, but it was most likely unrelated. 

I haven't lost hope in Amenalief completely though, as I see it's normally prescribed at 400mg/day for treating shingles. The dosage might be simply too low for me, which wouldn't be a surprise as usually I need everything in high dosages (food, drugs etc) for them to work. 

Has anyone here had experiences using different dosages of Amenalief? I recall reading at least one forum member mentioning they had good results at 200mg/day but not at 100mg/day. I would love to try it at a higher dosage, but the price just puts me down as even at 100mg/day, one month's dosage costs the same as my rent.. 

 

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MikeHerp
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Thanks for sharing.  I've tried it a bit and I was under the impression that 100mg was working for me, though it took a few days.  

But I guess it's natural thata med doesn't work for everyone.

By the way, is it 100% sure that the symptoms you were trying to treat, was HSV?  I guess so, but in the past, I've also had prostatitis and UIs (which I'm pretty sure were connected to herpes, but which were not herpes per se, and could not be directly treated with antivirals). 

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2 hours ago, MikeHerp said:

Thanks for sharing.  I've tried it a bit and I was under the impression that 100mg was working for me, though it took a few days.  

But I guess it's natural thata med doesn't work for everyone.

By the way, is it 100% sure that the symptoms you were trying to treat, was HSV?  I guess so, but in the past, I've also had prostatitis and UIs (which I'm pretty sure were connected to herpes, but which were not herpes per se, and could not be directly treated with antivirals). 

Yeah it might not be working for me altogether, or would just require a higher dosage. I would love to try it at a higher dosage, but I'd feel bad spending a big chunk of my income on a drug with no guarantees of it working. I might do another experiment with 200mg/day for 14 days just to see if it works any better. If it does, then there is always the option of contract manufacturing a larger quantity. 

I realise the best for me right now to spend my time on figuring out ways to make more money, instead of spending hours daily trying to find a cure for my disease. While money does not cure herpes, it certainly gives one more options to experiment with drugs and supplements. The main problem for me is the constant lethargic feeling, which makes me incredibly unproductive and unmotivated. At work, I am currently doing the bare minimum just to get it out of the way, so the quality of work is already suffering. 

I am 99% sure that my symptoms are from HSV-2. I googled prosatitis and I don't have symptoms similar to its description. Imo. my symptoms are very clear HSV-2 symptoms and I have confirmed this both with a swab test and two antigen tests. I get redness, itchiness and small blisters forming on the glans and shaft of my penis that come and go regularly. They never grow as big or painful as they used to, but new ones come as old ones heal. This is accompanied by pain in the right groin lymph node, which in the past was also the first sign of an outbreak starting for me. The worst of all for me is the lethargy; I really wouldn't care less about little blisters, but this constant flu-like feeling is disabling me from being able to enjoy life and be productive. 

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5 hours ago, viralfrog said:

Yeah it might not be working for me altogether, or would just require a higher dosage. I would love to try it at a higher dosage, but I'd feel bad spending a big chunk of my income on a drug with no guarantees of it working. I might do another experiment with 200mg/day for 14 days just to see if it works any better. If it does, then there is always the option of contract manufacturing a larger quantity. 

I realise the best for me right now to spend my time on figuring out ways to make more money, instead of spending hours daily trying to find a cure for my disease. While money does not cure herpes, it certainly gives one more options to experiment with drugs and supplements. The main problem for me is the constant lethargic feeling, which makes me incredibly unproductive and unmotivated. At work, I am currently doing the bare minimum just to get it out of the way, so the quality of work is already suffering. 

I am 99% sure that my symptoms are from HSV-2. I googled prosatitis and I don't have symptoms similar to its description. Imo. my symptoms are very clear HSV-2 symptoms and I have confirmed this both with a swab test and two antigen tests. I get redness, itchiness and small blisters forming on the glans and shaft of my penis that come and go regularly. They never grow as big or painful as they used to, but new ones come as old ones heal. This is accompanied by pain in the right groin lymph node, which in the past was also the first sign of an outbreak starting for me. The worst of all for me is the lethargy; I really wouldn't care less about little blisters, but this constant flu-like feeling is disabling me from being able to enjoy life and be productive. 

I’m confused by this - you think you have HSV or you are confirmed as having HSV?

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Wait so neither valacyclovir nor amenamevir nor a combination of the two are yielding any improvements? And you've had it since 2014 and symptoms have gotten worse to the point of having outbreaks 27 out of 28 days while taking heavy antiviral combos? How bad was it in 2016? That sounds terrible. Are you seeing a specialist? What you describe sounds highly unusual and worse than what most people on here encounter. If you really have non-stop outbreaks caused by HSV you probably should consider working with a specialist who might give you both a differential, check you for heavy immune suppression, and give you intravenous antivirals.

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58 minutes ago, blurneworder said:

I’m confused by this - you think you have HSV or you are confirmed as having HSV?

Yes I am confirmed as HSV-2 positive as mentioned. I have done both; swab test and two antigen blood tests that all came back positive. 

51 minutes ago, vzhe said:

Wait so neither valacyclovir nor amenamevir nor a combination of the two are yielding any improvements? And you've had it since 2014 and symptoms have gotten worse to the point of having outbreaks 27 out of 28 days while taking heavy antiviral combos? How bad was it in 2016? That sounds terrible. Are you seeing a specialist? What you describe sounds highly unusual and worse than what most people on here encounter. If you really have non-stop outbreaks caused by HSV you probably should consider working with a specialist who might give you both a differential, check you for heavy immune suppression, and give you intravenous antivirals.

Yes that's correct; I used them in combination (Acyclovir, not valacyclovir though) for 28 days and saw no improvement. 

From 2014 to 2018 I had pretty typical herpes symptoms that would appear on average once a month. These would often happen if I slept poorly or had drank alcohol (the common triggers). However, I was always able to get rid of these outbreaks with an Acyclovir course at 1000mg/day for a few days. I had the outbreaks mainly on my penis during the first two years, and then on my buttocks for the couple of years after. 

Last year, after April 2018 the symptoms started gradually getting worse. I didn't have a single outbreak on my buttocks since, but only on my penis most of the time. The blisters are usually rather mild and small in size, but they just won't go away. Around 6 months ago, the OBs started being present practically every day. I have been to an expensive private hospital to see an infectious disease specialist. They ran all the standard blood tests for me (full blood count, thyroids, hiv etc.) and everything came back as normal. The doctor told me "there is no breakthrough yet for herpes cures, so you just have to learn to live with it". I'm really baffled what caused this sudden increase in outbreaks. I have carefully investigated and researched all my habits, supplements and drugs I take to find a connection, but no success so far. 

I caught the virus here in Thailand (I live here) and I have met two other people on this forum who also caught it from this country. They both describe a similar antiviral-resistant strain. This doesn't, however, explain the sudden increase in outbreak frequency. 

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15 hours ago, viralfrog said:

Hey guys,

I just completed a 28 day experiment with Amenalief. 

Dosage: 100mg / day (a pill cut in half) daily with lunch or dinner

Starting point: HSV-2 (tested) since 2014, Non-stop outbreaks since past 6 months with no improvements using antivirals or supplements. 

Other drugs / supplements: Acyclovir 1600-3200mg/day depending on outbreak severity, standard health supplement stack 

Results: no improvement noticed 

Side effects: none 

Alright so I ordered some Amenalief from Mimaki for a test. During this period I logged my symptoms down for every day. 27 out of 28 days I recorded an active outbreak, with symptoms varying from lethargy, redness, itchiness, visible blisters on my penis as well as a swollen lymph node in my groin. I didn't notice any difference after using Amenalief at this dosage. I had very high hopes for this drug after reading others' experiences on the forum, but unfortunately no break through for myself yet. I didn't notice any side effects from this drug. I thought I had some increased lethargy in the beginning, but it was most likely unrelated. 

I haven't lost hope in Amenalief completely though, as I see it's normally prescribed at 400mg/day for treating shingles. The dosage might be simply too low for me, which wouldn't be a surprise as usually I need everything in high dosages (food, drugs etc) for them to work. 

Has anyone here had experiences using different dosages of Amenalief? I recall reading at least one forum member mentioning they had good results at 200mg/day but not at 100mg/day. I would love to try it at a higher dosage, but the price just puts me down as even at 100mg/day, one month's dosage costs the same as my rent.. 

 

Money is the limiting factor as there are a ton of things you could try if money was not a concern.  I just got some very cheap memantine at the farmacia here...  It works on similar basis as amenalief, helicase inhibitor or whatever...  If you take a lot you will feel very relaxed and not get upset about anything really.  Took a heavy dose of that with 1200 mg aciclovir, 500mg valaciclovir, and about to take 500mg bht...  today's survival mix...  plus the usual suspects.  I spend almost every cent fighting this thing, and I am winning. 

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14 minutes ago, viralfrog said:

Yes I am confirmed as HSV-2 positive as mentioned. I have done both; swab test and two antigen blood tests that all came back positive. 

Yes that's correct; I used them in combination (Acyclovir, not valacyclovir though) for 28 days and saw no improvement. 

From 2014 to 2018 I had pretty typical herpes symptoms that would appear on average once a month. These would often happen if I slept poorly or had drank alcohol (the common triggers). However, I was always able to get rid of these outbreaks with an Acyclovir course at 1000mg/day for a few days. I had the outbreaks mainly on my penis during the first two years, and then on my buttocks for the couple of years after. 

Last year, after April 2018 the symptoms started gradually getting worse. I didn't have a single outbreak on my buttocks since, but only on my penis most of the time. The blisters are usually rather mild and small in size, but they just won't go away. Around 6 months ago, the OBs started being present practically every day. I have been to an expensive private hospital to see an infectious disease specialist. They ran all the standard blood tests for me (full blood count, thyroids, hiv etc.) and everything came back as normal. The doctor told me "there is no breakthrough yet for herpes cures, so you just have to learn to live with it". I'm really baffled what caused this sudden increase in outbreaks. I have carefully investigated and researched all my habits, supplements and drugs I take to find a connection, but no success so far. 

I caught the virus here in Thailand (I live here) and I have met two other people on this forum who also caught it from this country. They both describe a similar antiviral-resistant strain. This doesn't, however, explain the sudden increase in outbreak frequency. 

all known antiviral resistant strains are actually significantly less pathogenic. this is true both for ACV and HPI resistant strains. A double resistant strain would cause less disease, not constant outbreaks like what you describe. Also the sudden worsening is not normal. Whatever is going on with you is highly unusual and probably not representative for anyone else's experiences. The most likely explanation is that your symptoms really aren't from HSV. Did you get your constant outbreaks swabbed?

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WilsoInAus

Hang on, there is no such thing as an antiviral strain of herpes.

Only certain types of immuno-incompetence can cause antivirals not to be effective against all strains.

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2 hours ago, vzhe said:

all known antiviral resistant strains are actually significantly less pathogenic. this is true both for ACV and HPI resistant strains. A double resistant strain would cause less disease, not constant outbreaks like what you describe. Also the sudden worsening is not normal. Whatever is going on with you is highly unusual and probably not representative for anyone else's experiences. The most likely explanation is that your symptoms really aren't from HSV. Did you get your constant outbreaks swabbed?

Interesting.. it sounds indeed it's more likely a problem with my immune system. I haven't had a swab done recently, however when I did years ago it was from lesions that looked exactly the same as right now. I'm very confident that the symptoms I have are from HSV

43 minutes ago, WilsoInAus said:

Hang on, there is no such thing as an antiviral strain of herpes.

Only certain types of immuno-incompetence can cause antivirals not to be effective against all strains.

Thanks for the info. From basic blood tests everything comes back normal and otherwise I'm very healthy. I get sick around once per year, eat healthy, exercise regularly etc. I read before about something like one's immune system getting used to the virus and no longer recognising it as a threat, and not attacking it as it should. Perhaps this is the case for me. 

Do you have any recommendations on specific things I should test for to find issues with my immune system? 

One suspect I have is hormones, as I've been years on testosterone replacement therapy (I had testicular cancer) and been struggling to get my E2 Estradiol and Progesterone levels to a natural state. There are studies that show E2 and Progesterone levels affect HSV outbreaks, however despite ajusting my medication and changing those levels to either direction, it has not improved my outbreaks. 

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Well, I'm going to throw a few things out there for you to consider.

It does sound you have HSV.  But I wouldn't preclude that there is another issue on top of HSV.  It could be immune system or maybe another infection.  In my case, I've also had UTIs, which I'm pretty sure are related to HSV (the literature does in fact state that HSV leads to higher risk of UTIs), which all started since I got HSV2.  Consider also getting a urine test.  I wasn't able to detect that I had UTIs until I got the urine test--I felt burning and saw reddening and inflammation where I usually have the sub-clinical type outbreaks.   But later I found out that, at least part of the burning may have been caused by UTI.  I still blame the UTIs on the HSV, as I never had them before (and they aren't STD-type UTIs).  I got 2 shortly after I was diagnosed and finished my first outbreak.  Based on my experience, I'd recommend considering a urinalysis.

Beyond that, you might have some kind of immune issue, though from what you mentioned it doesn't sound like it.  

Be careful about working out too hard.  Rather than weight training or endurance runs, do some light jogging, walking or stretching.  Do only light weights.  I realized that heavy weights and exhaustion can bring on outbreaks.  Just consider giving yourself a break from the gym for a few days to a week, especially if you feel lethargy often.

Regarding lethargy, although my outbreaks weren't super severe, I did feel very tired, almost strangely narcoleptic, when I had an outbreak, and this went on for about 2 years (longer than seems to be usually the case, though in the past 6 months or so, it seemed to not happen anymore, even when I had HSV issues).

Regarding targeting HSV.  Like I said, the amenalief and valtrex combo definitely worked for me.  You might consider also switching to famcyclovir (it's usually more expensive, but I felt that it slightly helped me more than valtrex, though that's very subjective).

I've also sometimes felt that aloe very gel helped a bit, but again, sometimes it did not.  Other ointments, herbs etc. did not seem to help much.  I've tried propolis, propolis spray, etc. It didn't seem to make much difference.  

In general, many medications are like that and don't always work.  If you have a headache and you take a tylenol, often it makes the headache go away.  But sometimes it just doesn't.  I've also had periods of worse outbreaks or more persistent outbreaks.  That can be very frustrating because it just seems nothing will stop or help it.  

Consider taking something to ease anxiety.  Something like a benzodiazapine.  Xanax or something, in the evening before you sleep. That might help you to cope with the stress and relax you--might even help with outbreaks if they are stress related, though there's no guarantee.

That's just some random stuff that you could consider.  Keep fighting, 

 

ps. final idea--cut down on masturbation if your outbreaks are friction related, at least until you get things under control.

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7 hours ago, viralfrog said:

Yes I am confirmed as HSV-2 positive as mentioned. I have done both; swab test and two antigen blood tests that all came back positive. 

Yes that's correct; I used them in combination (Acyclovir, not valacyclovir though) for 28 days and saw no improvement. 

From 2014 to 2018 I had pretty typical herpes symptoms that would appear on average once a month. These would often happen if I slept poorly or had drank alcohol (the common triggers). However, I was always able to get rid of these outbreaks with an Acyclovir course at 1000mg/day for a few days. I had the outbreaks mainly on my penis during the first two years, and then on my buttocks for the couple of years after. 

Last year, after April 2018 the symptoms started gradually getting worse. I didn't have a single outbreak on my buttocks since, but only on my penis most of the time. The blisters are usually rather mild and small in size, but they just won't go away. Around 6 months ago, the OBs started being present practically every day. I have been to an expensive private hospital to see an infectious disease specialist. They ran all the standard blood tests for me (full blood count, thyroids, hiv etc.) and everything came back as normal. The doctor told me "there is no breakthrough yet for herpes cures, so you just have to learn to live with it". I'm really baffled what caused this sudden increase in outbreaks. I have carefully investigated and researched all my habits, supplements and drugs I take to find a connection, but no success so far. 

I caught the virus here in Thailand (I live here) and I have met two other people on this forum who also caught it from this country. They both describe a similar antiviral-resistant strain. This doesn't, however, explain the sudden increase in outbreak frequency. 

I got my disease in Thailand.  The valtrex does help me greatly actually, I would die without it.  I am still sick, but I can live my life.  If I take an extra gram on days I feel the fever coming up, and some bht, nac, glutamine, and extra methylene blue I can keep the fire down to a smouldering.  BHT helps as well, but I only take it when I feel it coming up.  Memantine is my newest weapon, I just started taking it.  It is derived from adamantane, a very interesting antiviral compound that also chills you out, a major chillaxer.  There will be some new epigenetic drugs coming to market soon that will have off label use against herpes.  If I were you I would try glutahione injections.  The nac/glutamine also helps, but I would get on that stuff, it really helps your body fight the infection.  Also, it sounds like your immune/hormonal system could be a bit out of whack, and thymosin alpha is supposed to fix that.  I would like to try that myself but it is too expensive at the moment.  You need to be rich to fight this thing, it is crazy.  There are at least a dozen things on my wish list, but altogether it would bankrupt me. 

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WilsoInAus
6 hours ago, viralfrog said:

I've uploaded a few cropped, zoomed-in close up photos of the blisters what I get every day here. Imo. it's a clear case of HSV-2 based on the photos:

https://ibb.co/qpNJXhD
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They're most likely not herpes lesions, they are water blisters. One potential cause is an immune disorder where your body is attempting to repair your skin and over produces blood serum. Some other issues that are possible explanations include epidermolysis bullosa and maybe even dermatitis herpetiformis (which despite the name has nothing to do with herpes or any virus). If they are present all or a lot of the time, I feel sure the answer is there, that really looks like blood serum in those nodules.

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33 minutes ago, WilsoInAus said:

They're most likely not herpes lesions, they are water blisters. One potential cause is an immune disorder where your body is attempting to repair your skin and over produces blood serum. Some other issues that are possible explanations include epidermolysis bullosa and maybe even dermatitis herpetiformis (which despite the name has nothing to do with herpes or any virus). If they are present all or a lot of the time, I feel sure the answer is there, that really looks like blood serum in those nodules.

could also be molluscum

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11 hours ago, MikeHerp said:

Well, I'm going to throw a few things out there for you to consider.

Thanks a lot for many suggestions! Most of these I've already tried, but always something new to find out. I might go get checked for UTIs. I don't have any of their typical symptoms, but perhaps a mild inflammation could trigger the herpes outbreaks. 

Unfortunately, I cannot turn my sport activities into such, as heavy weight training has been an important part of my life since 11 years. I lift 4 days a week, 1 hour at a time with 3 days rest and have already tested whether my workouts affect my outbreaks with minimal effect. I've taken 3 to 4 week total rest from the gym and saw no improvement. If I have a bad OB, I won't go to the gym though as it's clear extra stress makes it workse. But yet, total rest didn't give any significant improvement. Also, I didn't have these problems years ago despite a much heavier workout routine. 

Might give that famcyclovir a try if it's available here. Usually I use generic Acyclovir because it costs like 1/6th the price of Valtrex (import). Good idea with aloe gel too, although the blisters themselves don't bother me at all. It's the lethargy that is killing me. 

I've also tried Xanax and Diazepam. I use Xanax to sleep on long haul flights and for bad hangovers (although nowadays I drink alcohol only a few times a year as a night out makes me feel 5 x worse for 5-7 days after). I was also prescribed Diazepam for lethargy as I mentioned sleeping trouble, but I don't want to start using such heavy, addictive medication unless really necessary. 

You're right about masturbation, but actually I've almost quit it totally, gone 3 months without. Not because of Herpes, but because I generally believe it's bad for me (makes me unable to enjoy sex). Having sex always makes my outbreaks worse. 

5 hours ago, WilsoInAus said:

They're most likely not herpes lesions, they are water blisters. One potential cause is an immune disorder where your body is attempting to repair your skin and over produces blood serum. Some other issues that are possible explanations include epidermolysis bullosa and maybe even dermatitis herpetiformis (which despite the name has nothing to do with herpes or any virus). If they are present all or a lot of the time, I feel sure the answer is there, that really looks like blood serum in those nodules.

 

4 hours ago, vzhe said:

could also be molluscum

Thanks for the suggestions, it's always a good idea to actually make sure this is Herpes and not something else. I had a read on all those conditions and they really don't seem like the symptoms I have apart of the look. This also wouldn't explain the lethargy, which always gets worse depending on my OB severity. If googling the basic HSV-2 symptoms, mine seem to be the most common ones which leaves me no doubt that it's caused by that. 

Maybe I will do a little test; I will stop antivirals completely for a week and see what happens. If my OBs get bad enough I can go for another swab test and at least rule any other possible conditions out. 

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@viralfrog they do not look like herpes lesions, there is little dermal disruption indicative of the virus coming through the skin. They are almost certainly water blisters, a serum, which has quite a range of causes. 

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12 hours ago, viralfrog said:

Thanks a lot for many suggestions! Most of these I've already tried, but always something new to find out. I might go get checked for UTIs. I don't have any of their typical symptoms, but perhaps a mild inflammation could trigger the herpes outbreaks. 

Unfortunately, I cannot turn my sport activities into such, as heavy weight training has been an important part of my life since 11 years. I lift 4 days a week, 1 hour at a time with 3 days rest and have already tested whether my workouts affect my outbreaks with minimal effect. I've taken 3 to 4 week total rest from the gym and saw no improvement. If I have a bad OB, I won't go to the gym though as it's clear extra stress makes it workse. But yet, total rest didn't give any significant improvement. Also, I didn't have these problems years ago despite a much heavier workout routine. 

Might give that famcyclovir a try if it's available here. Usually I use generic Acyclovir because it costs like 1/6th the price of Valtrex (import). Good idea with aloe gel too, although the blisters themselves don't bother me at all. It's the lethargy that is killing me. 

I've also tried Xanax and Diazepam. I use Xanax to sleep on long haul flights and for bad hangovers (although nowadays I drink alcohol only a few times a year as a night out makes me feel 5 x worse for 5-7 days after). I was also prescribed Diazepam for lethargy as I mentioned sleeping trouble, but I don't want to start using such heavy, addictive medication unless really necessary. 

You're right about masturbation, but actually I've almost quit it totally, gone 3 months without. Not because of Herpes, but because I generally believe it's bad for me (makes me unable to enjoy sex). Having sex always makes my outbreaks worse. 

 

Thanks for the suggestions, it's always a good idea to actually make sure this is Herpes and not something else. I had a read on all those conditions and they really don't seem like the symptoms I have apart of the look. This also wouldn't explain the lethargy, which always gets worse depending on my OB severity. If googling the basic HSV-2 symptoms, mine seem to be the most common ones which leaves me no doubt that it's caused by that. 

Maybe I will do a little test; I will stop antivirals completely for a week and see what happens. If my OBs get bad enough I can go for another swab test and at least rule any other possible conditions out. 

I tried famvir.  It feels different than vcv and acv.  I was on highest label dose.  The symptoms of the virus changed as compared to the acv/vcv.  Vcv is five times more absorbable than acv, it works better.  You can get it cheaply from usa and forwarded to your country.  Thats what I do.  Make no mistake training is a key trigger.  I have to constantly hold myself back when im feeling good.  Just an extra 50 meter sprint in the water and fever will start coming on.  Its the intense sprinting that triggers it for me.  Day three on memantine and I have 0 aggression or desire to workout.  But at least the shroom trip passed.  Careful with that stuff.  Trippy if you take too much.

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11 hours ago, jmherped said:

I tried famvir.  It feels different than vcv and acv.  I was on highest label dose.  The symptoms of the virus changed as compared to the acv/vcv.  Vcv is five times more absorbable than acv, it works better.  You can get it cheaply from usa and forwarded to your country.  Thats what I do.  Make no mistake training is a key trigger.  I have to constantly hold myself back when im feeling good.  Just an extra 50 meter sprint in the water and fever will start coming on.  Its the intense sprinting that triggers it for me.  Day three on memantine and I have 0 aggression or desire to workout.  But at least the shroom trip passed.  Careful with that stuff.  Trippy if you take too much.

It's definitely worth a try, I'll see if I can find it from a local pharmacy. I've done quite extensive research on Acyclovir vs. Valacyclovir vs. Famciclovir and most studies show no significant difference between the effectivity of these three drugs for treating HSV-2. 

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@viralfrog

Those blisters don't look like herpes. A herpes blister is typically surrounded by redness and some swelling.

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7 hours ago, Cas9 said:

@viralfrog

Those blisters don't look like herpes. A herpes blister is typically surrounded by redness and some swelling.

These are actually surrounded by redness, but it's not showing in the photo due to the lighting. 

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On ‎4‎/‎16‎/‎2019 at 11:20 PM, Cas9 said:

@viralfrog

Those blisters don't look like herpes. A herpes blister is typically surrounded by redness and some swelling.

I am going to have to agree with @WilsoInAus and @Cas9, those really don't resemble your typical HSV outbreak. How recent was your last swab? You may be throwing money at the wrong issue.

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5 hours ago, @lw@ys said:

I am going to have to agree with @WilsoInAus and @Cas9, those really don't resemble your typical HSV outbreak. How recent was your last swab? You may be throwing money at the wrong issue.

My last swab was years ago. I guess I need to get another done. 

2 hours ago, Quest said:

Interesting stuff!

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 Just info, but my blisters looked like that if I didn't touch them. I could not really see them on my back so I had my hubby take a picture.  That's why I believe that 80% of people don't even notice them!?!

Did you test positive via swab?

Don't take piracetam without choline or it can give a headache. I love the energy and computer mind. That's my fave and Dr. Steve Fowkes who wrote the free book on BHT still takes piracetam. He also was an author on Smart Drugs II. He also has videos on YouTube.

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