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My Actual 'Miracle Cure' - Rubbing Alcohol

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TerribleAtUserNames
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Hi there, 

Long time lurker, first time poster, and I'll keep it simple and condensed. 

I've only signed up because I realize the depths of suffering some people are in, trying all sorts of desperate treatments, and I've basically been sitting on something that has taken me to near 0 outbreaks (hsv1 genital).

When I first got infected some years back, I had an atypical presentation--no pain or itching, but permanently there. Bumps going up and down within the same day even, but pretty much permanently covering the head of my penis. Doctor swabbed it--came back hsv 1; he said it looked like it to him too. 

Now to the meat of it--rubbing alcohol.

Its simple, and I'm pretty surprised that I've only seen it mentioned once here--a woman was talking about it, so I assume it works for girls too. I apply once daily, to once every 3 days, and that keeps me pretty much permanently outbreak free. 

It quite literally went from every day broken out for me to just about nothing. Anyway, to the what and where of it all... 

 

I use 99% isopropyl. 70% seems good too. I now have a spray bottle, but used to just dump it on the head and roll my foreskin up over it for like 20ish seconds--whatever process is actually happening, I like to think I'm facilitating absorption into the soft tissue by doing this and wreaking havoc on the virus. Obviously, you may have to do it a bit differently, genital depending.

I've been doing this treatment for a few years now, so it has staying power. I read once that herpes is shreded by alcohol, so if true, I guess that explains it? However, iterupting regular treatment seems to have anecdotally, but not with great surety, made the herpes a bit less suceptible to the alcohol upon resumption. 

Yes, it burns terribly at first. Over time it gets better. Some days it still really burns, and in those cases I advise listening to your body and cutting the countdown short. Other than that, it feels really damn good to basically tell herpes to eff off. 

I don't know what kind of health risks there are. Or whether using a high % grain (drinking) alcohol would work / be healthier. I advise asking your doctor--afterall, alchohol is implicated in throat cancer. Who knows if 20-30 seconds daily on your junk can do something too. 

But for those who struggle constantly, I truly hope this can help someone other than just me. 

 

I also hope that this finds its way to the right forum. I wanted it in a place where casual, straight from Google, viewers would see it when they came here, and I'm hoping--and asking, please--that if I didn't get it in the right place, a moderator can instead. And, should it help as I suggest, perhaps even stickying it one day. 

I'm sorry in advance, I'm not a big forum person and don't come here crazy often. It just felt like something I should do for everyone else's sake. Hopefully you can excuse me if I'm an absentee topic starter. 

Thanks for reading,

- Taylor

 

Edit:

I forgot to add in any negative effects I've experienced. 

Sometimes, if its burning more than usual and I leave it too long, it does make the skin pinker than it should be, and sore. 

The big question, what about loss of sensitivity? I worried that may happen, and its possible actually that I've lost some amount. But if I have, it wasn't even enough to remember when posting this originally, hahaha.

Still every body is different, so I can only speak for me. But yes, for me, my sensitivity down there is still in great shape. 

Over the last few years I've on average had less stiff erections, and dysfunction, which I never had before. However, I've also been less physically healthy, I've been mentally disengaged and highly anxious around sex and sexuality (and when I'm not anxious, it often improves quite a bit), I read once that herpes itself can actually cause forms of ED, and I'm also now out of my 20's, so... 

Possibly related? But also very possibly unrelated to the alcohol. I'm biased though, both in mentality and my words here. So, perhaps consult a doctor if you're concerned. 

Cheers! 

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MaxTX
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Rubbing alcohol into an open wound seems like a bad idea. It will burn the skin and delay the healing. Thanks for sharing but it doesn’t sounds like a good idea to try it.

 This topic should be change to another section in the forum.. 

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Tired of waiting

When I was getting outbreaks I would do a variation of this, my routine was to wash the area with soap and water, pop the blisters, apply hydrogen peroxide, when foaming stopped, follow up with an alcohol rinse.  sometimes it would sting a little, but for me that beat walking around with blisters for a week. Then the little scabs would heal in a few days.

To the OP can you point me to the alcohol story and it affect on HSV?

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1 hour ago, Tired of waiting said:

When I was getting outbreaks I would do a variation of this, my routine was to wash the area with soap and water, pop the blisters, apply hydrogen peroxide, when foaming stopped, follow up with an alcohol rinse.  sometimes it would sting a little, but for me that beat walking around with blisters for a week. Then the little scabs would heal in a few days.

To the OP can you point me to the alcohol story and it affect on HSV?

Alcohol will kill hsv on the skin surface, and so will simple soap and water. Obviously, if you pop a blister and dab it with alcohol it will simply dry out the area and likely scab over. Do you think it may have some sort of effect on frequency of OBs or effect on the latent virus? It doesn't

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Tired of waiting
59 minutes ago, Cas9 said:

Do you think it may have some sort of effect on frequency of OBs or effect on the latent virus? It doesn't

no, I was wondering if in conjunction with condoms and antiviral,  if an alcohol wash would be an addition step to help in reduction of spreading HSV to a partner. sounds like it might help a little.

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49 minutes ago, Tired of waiting said:

no, I was wondering if in conjunction with condoms and antiviral,  if an alcohol wash would be an addition step to help in reduction of spreading HSV to a partner. sounds like it might help a little.

That's possible. I guess it depends on how much virus is left after applying the alcohol and how quickly the virus comes back. For example, if you're still shedding the virus then you'll get some new viral particles after you cleaned yourself. That said, it certainly can't hurt to wash yourself prior to sex. If you do use alcohol, just wet a tissue and wipe yourself down.

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Tired of waiting
1 hour ago, Cas9 said:

  I guess it depends on how much virus is left after applying the alcohol and how quickly the virus comes back. For example, if you're still shedding the virus then you'll get some new viral particles after you cleaned yourself. That said, it certainly can't hurt to wash yourself prior to sex. If you do use alcohol, just wet a tissue and wipe yourself down.

I have been wondering if there is a home test to tell when you are shedding and by how much. some thing along  the lines of a moist pad , that could be used to swab the area infected, and that would change color when it came in contact with the virus?

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Cas9
3 minutes ago, Tired of waiting said:

I have been wondering if there is a home test to tell when you are shedding and by how much. some thing along  the lines of a moist pad , that could be used to swab the area infected, and that would change color when it came in contact with the virus?

The answer to your question is NO.

After all, if we could just test ourselves before having sex then why would anyone be worried about transmission:)

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TerribleAtUserNames
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Hey everyone, thanks for responding!

So you know, I updated the original post with negative effects I've experienced with alcohol as treatment, so feel free to check that out if you're curious. 

Now, to what you guys were saying... 

 

MaxTX:

I actually use alcohol as my disinfectant of choice for most wounds. And sutiability seems to vary based on the type of alcohol used (says the internet). That being said, you are right apparently--but this isn't about the best wound treatment method. Its about stopping outbreaks. Regardless, I suspect the deleterious effects are fairly minor if you're trying to disinfect most wounds, but that's totally my personal opinion. 

None the less, I'd suggest giving it a shot for outbreak prevention. It certainly works for me, hopefully it will for you too. And compared to taking an experimental vaccine or something like that, wouldn't this be easy and super low risk to try?

Also if you google 'herpes' and 'alcohol' you can find a number of hits suggesting its use as a disinfectant for the sores.

 

Tired of Waiting:

I'm sorry, it was a long time ago that I read her talking about it. But from what I remember, she was talking about wiping down there with alcohol, and how it helped with her outbreaks. I remember her also saying it burned like a mofo at first, but eventually became kinda second nature. I don't know what type of alcohol she used, sorry.

Again, if you're concerned, maybe ask your doctor about safety? Like I said, isopropyl has worked well for me.

I actually do use it before sex for that reason, back when I was having sex that is. Across 3 partners used with, no known infections--but given that I have hsv 1, and like 50-60% of the population is infected already, but only 10% present with symptoms, that could mean nothing.

Unfortunately, I'm not a doctor, and certainly not one that has researched this scientifically, so I can't give you a firm answer for transmission prevention during sex. Personally, I'm confident in at least isopropyl alcohol's herpes killing abilities, even if just topically. For better or worse, real or imagined (but I suspect real), I let myself relax a lot more when using it before sex. 

And then again after sex, for my own sake, hahaha, as I'm not overly keen on risking anything else. However, even this is something to consult a doctor about--I feel like there is conflicting information on whether it can be helpful post coitus, or whether it can actually increase the risk of getting an sti vs. simply washing. Imo, do some research and ask a physician to confirm or deny what you've learned.

 

Cas9:

Soap and water never worked anywhere close to as well for me. Soap and water still meant permanent outbreak. So I suspect the alcohol is doing much more. I should clarify though, that I do actually dilligently use soap and water as well--the whole regular bathing thing 😁

I know you suggested to Tired of Waiting that it wouldn't affect outbreak frequency or the latent virus. I can't obviously check my own latent virus levels, but yes I can still get outbreaks if I stop using the alcohol. However I can, indeed, use it as a prophylactic for outbreaks, and it does prevent me from getting them the vast majority of the time. Perhaps because that kind of tissue is more absorbent or something? Or perhaps when topically applied the alcohol is significantly more potent and herpes unfriendly--which I believe really is also the case from what I've read.

I know though that I can't discontinue alcohol treatment for more than 6ish days (my limit so far) without flaring up again. And with twice daily showers, that would strongly imply that soap and water is really not helping the same way. 

Cheers, guys! 

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@TerribleAtUserNames

OK, you need to understand the science. Alcohol does not seep into a nerve cell and kill the latent virus; That's a scientific fact. So you don't need to worry about checking.

All the alcohol does is kill the virus on the skin surface. Whether it gets a little deeper in the skin layers and kills virus better than soap and water, I can't say for sure. Obviously, popping a blister and using alcohol will have a more drying effect than soap and water.

The bottom line is that killing a herpes virus is easy when it's outside the nerve cell. Killing it in a nerve cell is difficult because anything that gets into the cell and kills the virus (breaking up it's dna), must not also damage the cell's dna. You need a smart bomb to do that. That's what gene editing is. It is programmed to have the ability to cut out dna segments specific to the virus without touching the cells dna.

You have this image of the cell as a container and the alcohol just pours into it and kills the virus. If that was the case, it would destroy the cell's dna also. Cells are living things that have receptors on their cellular surface. Anything that gets into that cell, must have the protein that matches with one of the cell's receptors (like a key to a lock), which in turn causes the cell to let the substance enter. That's one method of how something gets in a cell.

Do you honestly think that in all the decades that great scientific minds have tried to tackle this problem, that they simply missed your alcohol cure? C'mon man!!!   :)

 

 

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Oh, sorry, I think the catchy title I used was very misleading. And I didn't intend that.

I put 'miracle cure' as air quotes because I don't actually think I've discovered a true cure. I mean, I still can get outbreaks, the virus is obviously still there. I like to at least think I'm not that arrogant or naive. 🙄

I had not definitively said anything for a couple reasons, including that I don't prefer making overly definitive statements to things I don't know. 

And I was more talking with regard to what you were saying in your second paragraph in your most recent reply, whether tissue absorption had any additional effect to simple topical application.

So, hopefully that's cleared up.

But it is effectively a functional cure for me. In so far as I've gone from permanent outbreaks to one maybe every... 8ish months? I barely remember I have it. 

And the point is that the virus has really impacted some people's lives. To the point where they take crazy--high risk--'treatments' or think about self harm. And if some other people can get the relief I've gotten from something so stupidly simple, I want them to be able to have that too.

Especially given that the risk-reward ratio is--in my opinion at least--very favourable. I mean, its like literally 20-30 seconds of isopropyl alcohol a day. If it doesn't do jack for you in two weeks, move on--y'know? But I assume if it acts a particular way for me, it will likely act that way for at least someone else. And that could really change someone's life... Like it did mine. 

Cheers, 

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