Do this seem like hsv?

[DJwah]

Ok I have been having all kinds of symptoms for 4 months straight after a brief unprotected encounter. Everything started 15 days post. What I believe started this was my obsessive washing with soap gel, but symptoms still continue. I have tested negative via IgG with two different labs and two swabs also negative (four months past exposure) I’m still not convinced. Here’s my experience below.

- swollen urethra. severe internal penile pain, and RED glans (no dysuria) this has since faded after three months, but still get redness and glans skin looks different. Took acyclovir which helped with pain but nothing changed visually 

- my back broke out with acne, never before experienced and have been experiencing muscle twitching in my legs

- my lip had a break out, white head looking thing to then red mass, swab came back as staph a week later.

- currently experiencing daily anal burning that has had me in tears a couple times. I’ve never had hemorrhoids in my life, but that what the doc says. Gets more intense after smoking cannabis or drinking. Also, burning perineum.

It wouldn’t let me upload pics, what’s the easiest way to do this?

Edited July 26, 2019 by DJwah

[Cas9]

I don't see your symptoms as herpes, and your tests also indicate that.

Edited July 26, 2019 by Cas9

[ChrisM]

I'm not sure about the other symptoms (they don't sound too related, based off what I've researched, but I could be wrong) but in regards to your "burning sensation in your perineum" and "anal burning" (not sure if your feeling is actual burning or more so a feeling of always needing to use the restroom), you may have a condition called prostatitis. This is a bacterial infection of the prostate, solved with a 3-5 week course of antibiotics, that may also contribute to your off-and-on "urethra pain" (with prostatitis, there is sometimes burning while urinating). I would consult your PCP or a Urologist and see what they have to say. Hope this helps! 

[DJwah]

On 7/26/2019 at 11:30 AM, Cas9 said:

I don't see your symptoms as herpes, and your tests also indicate that.

Thanks for replying, I’m still confused. My ass has been on fire and red for over a month (no itch though). Any other cases here where you have seen that?

[ChrisM]

So I'm no doctor, and definitely no expert on HSV, but I'm very confused with your symptoms and test results listed, as follows:

- Two IgG blood tests and two swabs later.. all came back negative after 16-weeks. Now this is up to your own discretion, as like I said I am no expert, but that seems like a viable enough time to detect any sort of "HSV positive" reaction. Someone with some experience please provide some insight on this.

- In my opinion, back acne is normal, just one of those things you have to deal with from time-to-time, wether is be sweat, hormones, etc. No real correlation to HSV.

- You said your lip had a breakout, that was confirmed as staph (I'm assuming this was from some sort of MD). I haven't heard anything on Staph infections being related to HSV, unless you've have a really bad HSV breakout (multiple sores, ulcers, etc.).

- When you said your doctor diagnosed you with hemorrhoids, did he actually do a physical examination? It's sometimes hard to diagnose those types of things without a physical examination, especially if they're internal, as well as how large they actually are. Your comment about "sometimes becomes worse with smoking cannabis or drinking" may hold true to some hemorrhoid episodes, as tobacco and alcohol use can provide more increased blood flow to the hemorrhoids. Please provide some more detail here. 

If you would like to upload photos, ImgBB is a good source for that. Just a recommendation.

Just as a side note, as I wait to see if I myself have any sort of HSV, your symptoms (without photos) don't seem to match up with the virus. HOWEVER, since you mentioned your encounter was 4 months ago, I would urge you to get tested again (since you never made note of when your previous tests were done, as getting tested too soon may lead to negative results). I would also highly recommend you contact your PCP as they may have an idea about what's going on/what's the best course to take for your issue, especially as it sounds like some sort of bacterial/fungal rash (i.e. jock itch or ringworm).

I hope everything works out for you! All the best!

[DJwah]

27 minutes ago, ChrisM said:

So I'm no doctor, and definitely no expert on HSV, but I'm very confused with your symptoms and test results listed, as follows:

- Two IgG blood tests and two swabs later.. all came back negative after 16-weeks. Now this is up to your own discretion, as like I said I am no expert, but that seems like a viable enough time to detect any sort of "HSV positive" reaction. Someone with some experience please provide some insight on this.

- In my opinion, back acne is normal, just one of those things you have to deal with from time-to-time, wether is be sweat, hormones, etc. No real correlation to HSV.

- You said your lip had a breakout, that was confirmed as staph (I'm assuming this was from some sort of MD). I haven't heard anything on Staph infections being related to HSV, unless you've have a really bad HSV breakout (multiple sores, ulcers, etc.).

- When you said your doctor diagnosed you with hemorrhoids, did he actually do a physical examination? It's sometimes hard to diagnose those types of things without a physical examination, especially if they're internal, as well as how large they actually are. Your comment about "sometimes becomes worse with smoking cannabis or drinking" may hold true to some hemorrhoid episodes, as tobacco and alcohol use can provide more increased blood flow to the hemorrhoids. Please provide some more detail here. 

If you would like to upload photos, ImgBB is a good source for that. Just a recommendation.

Just as a side note, as I wait to see if I myself have any sort of HSV, your symptoms (without photos) don't seem to match up with the virus. HOWEVER, since you mentioned your encounter was 4 months ago, I would urge you to get tested again (since you never made note of when your previous tests were done, as getting tested too soon may lead to negative results). I would also highly recommend you contact your PCP as they may have an idea about what's going on/what's the best course to take for your issue, especially as it sounds like some sort of bacterial/fungal rash (i.e. jock itch or ringworm).

I hope everything works out for you! All the best!

Chris thanks, for your response. I tested negative after 4 months and planning to test again every two months and eventually western blot at 1 year mark. 

I had genital irritation and pain for about 3 months and now my pain has transitioned full time to the anus. Here’s the picture I sent to my doctor that said hemorrhoids (never had an issue with my butt in my life, I’m only 29) I apologize because it’s pretty graphic! 😔

https://ibb.co/MGQ6P9r

[ChrisM]

No worries at all. Keep up the testing, until you feel 100% comfortable with the result! From the picture your provided, I don't see anything indicative of HSV. 

It does in fact look like you have hemorrhoids (I can speak on this matter from personal experience hah). The degree to which you have them though is unknown to me, as your doctor would have to perform some type of physical examination (sometimes, internal hemorrhoids can be a lot larger than they appear on the outside). Also, having higher blood pressure can contribute to uncomfortable pain involving hemorrhoids (once again, I only know this from personal experience). I'm still confused about the "burning sensation" you describe, but if you notice any bleeding during stool movements, it may be a cause for concern. Nonetheless, I still urge you to speak with your PCP or a Gastroenterologist, as they'll know the best course of action to take.

You never specified what type of "encounter" you had (i.e. straight or homosexual, if something was put up your anus or not, etc. I honestly don't care what you're into hah) so I can't make any sort of assumption for anything unless you've noticed blood/excessive mucus in your stools. If this was the case, keep a lookout for serious changes. This could be another reason for a burning sensation at the anus (i.e. anal fissure.. once again, I can't see anything from the photo indicative as such, but a MD would be much better equipped to diagnose such a thing). 

The only other thing that could possibly measure up to the symptoms you describe is pudendal neuralgia (i.e. a trapped prudential nerve that causes pain, discomfort, or numbness in your pelvis or genitals. It happens when the pudendal nerve is damaged, irritated or trapped, and it can make it hard to use the restroom, sit down or have sex. The pain comes and goes). Once again, I recommend seeing your PCP or a Neurologist on this issue, as I am no expert.

Btw, it could still be some sort of bacteria/fungal infection, but in my experiences that's highly unlikely since you say its "transitioned full time to the anus" i.e. localized. Still, check with your PCP for the best course of action.

I really hope this helps! All the best!

[Quest]

It could still be a virus like HPV. I like what everyone suggested. Especially the prostatitis.

Not trying to scare you, and I would like to see you keep on the detective hat. That will really help your doctor. Bravo Chris.

Could be some sort of nerve pain that will get better. B-complex and alpha lipoic acid ingested

[DJwah]

Well I have doctors appt tomorrow morning...will update

[Quest]

Ask for PCR and igG. Establish what is a normal and swollen sphincter via pictures.

ETA spots that are red on penis can be fungal or bacterial in nature

[DJwah]

Doctor said it just looked irritated, but didn’t feel internal hemms and to eat more fiber. My stools are normal though. It looks worse today. He ordered a viral and bacterial PCR on my request only. Have to go in today and do it...it’s not looking too promising, also have another appt tomorrow with a doctor who’s going to look closer with a camera.

[HerpesOrNot]

On 7/30/2019 at 2:04 PM, DJwah said:

Doctor said it just looked irritated, but didn’t feel internal hemms and to eat more fiber. My stools are normal though. It looks worse today. He ordered a viral and bacterial PCR on my request only. Have to go in today and do it...it’s not looking too promising, also have another appt tomorrow with a doctor who’s going to look closer with a camera.

Get any results back?

[HerpesOrNot]

@DJwah curious about your results. anything you can share?

[DJwah]

4 iggs and 4 pcrs all negative 4.5 months since, but I feel it in my soul that I have hsv. Fuck all these tests. My asshole has been on fire for almost 3 months and the texture of my genital skin looks different when erect...bumpy. I wake up everyday hoping to feel normal and it’s just not happening so then I envision blowing my head off with a gun. Everyday these are my thoughts. I’m angry and biter at the way I contracted this bs. Especially now that it’s clear I have some aggressive strain and a weak immune response.

[WilsoInAus]

@DJwah only you can choose your destiny.

Herpes does not cause your arse to burn, it does not cause bumpy skin, you test negative.

Only you can choose life.

[DJwah]

22 minutes ago, WilsoInAus said:

@DJwah only you can choose your destiny.

Herpes does not cause your arse to burn, it does not cause bumpy skin, you test negative.

Only you can choose life.

I have personally talked with other members who have my exact symptoms with a confirmed diagnosis, there’s not many of us...we exist though. Believe what you want and I will too. 

[WilsoInAus]

10 minutes ago, DJwah said:

I have personally talked with other members who have my exact symptoms with a confirmed diagnosis, there’s not many of us...we exist though. Believe what you want and I will too. 

He doesn't have genital herpes, so that's reassuring!

Of what benefit to you and your loved ones is assuming you have herpes?

 

[DrumLoop8]

Hey @DJwah not sure if I missed it but did you get a chance go swab the ”hemorrhoids” and inside the anus? If so, and negative, you should be in the clear if IGG blood test was negative too. This could all very well be something other than herpes. There's a good chance it's prostatitis. Has a urologist checked and pressed on your prostate to see if you'd get a reaction? 

Keep your head up man. It'll be okay.

[DJwah]

@DrumLoop8 I did get a negative swab on the anus, now the lumps are gone but I still get persistent pain all day, every day. Also, my glans skin looks different than it used too.

[blurneworder]

@DJwah, here is a forum where someone says they have redness in the glans and they are also HSV1 positive 

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/herpes-2-igg-test-3-1-569144

[WilsoInAus]

1 hour ago, blurneworder said:

@DJwah, here is a forum where someone says they have redness in the glans and they are also HSV1 positive 

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/herpes-2-igg-test-3-1-569144

And he eventually realised that his HSV-1 was oral and the redness from another cause went away. It is doubtful that anyone’s redness in that article was due to herpes, even those who have actually tested positive.

This is a great lesson for @DJwah as you can see people get obsessed over herpes except those who actually have it. 

That leads to the Henry Ford saying.

Whether you think you have herpes, or whether you think you don’t, you’re right!

[WilsoInAus]

1 minute ago, blurneworder said:

That is not true.

Yes it is, did you actually read the thread and their other posts?

Regardless this is a real life test. 

The OP is ready to commit suicide if he has herpes impacting his anus.

Based on negative swabs, negative PCR tests and the fact that herpes may not even be able to cause theses symptoms - are you prepared to make the call that he has genital herpes and it is causing the symptoms?

Or is there room to doubt?

Time to man up.

[Ely]

On 7/29/2019 at 5:32 AM, DJwah said:

Chris thanks, for your response. I tested negative after 4 months and planning to test again every two months and eventually western blot at 1 year mark. 

I had genital irritation and pain for about 3 months and now my pain has transitioned full time to the anus. Here’s the picture I sent to my doctor that said hemorrhoids (never had an issue with my butt in my life, I’m only 29) I apologize because it’s pretty graphic! 😔

https://ibb.co/MGQ6P9r

Picture shows classic hemorrhoid beginning avoid solid foods eat lot of yogurt soups stop with coffee it will be fine don't worry,  I write from personal experience salute