Oral Herpes or?????

[Contador 123]

I have a lot of dots across my upper lip where it meets the bottom one, they have been there for around 8 to 10 weeks now. 

Sometimes they are smooth and sometimes I can feel them with my tongue. 

They haven't got bigger or changed in appearance, not sore at all or tingling, one did get really white and a small amount of white fluid came out then it went red for about 2 hours and disappeared. 

I have been fully tested for STIs but HSV1 was positive. 

The spots are a little bigger than a pin are more visible if I pull my lip tight and also I have some inside my mouth on the cheeks along my tooth line and some in the corner of my lips. My tongue tip is quite sore or numb, I can't decide which it is. 

I know I tested for HSV1 but these do not display the typical behaviour, someone mentioned fordyce spots and my GP was not much help. 

Can anyone put some light on this for me. 

[WilsoInAus]

Hey @Contador 123 yes they are fordyce spots, almost certainly.

Note that 40% of people with oral HSV-1 experience no symptoms at all. Those that do mostly experience lesions.

[Contador 123]

2 minutes ago, WilsoInAus said:

Hey @Contador 123 yes they are fordyce spots, almost certainly.

Note that 40% of people with oral HSV-1 experience no symptoms at all. Those that do mostly experience lesions.

Thank you.

Its just so scary at the moment, I know the HSV1 test was positive but these spots don't seem like anything I can compare Herpes to. 

Some might think I'm stupid for asking due to the test results but there is no itching, scabbing or blister, just small raised bumps. 

There was a little one that popped but like I said it just disappeared. 

Do fordyce spots pop? 

[WilsoInAus]

Hey @Contador 123 yes fordyce spots do occasionally pop and elicit a firm white pus usually.

Mostly they sit there and do nothing much. They do go through phases of being prominent then shrinking based on hormones, diet etc.

[Contador 123]

1 minute ago, WilsoInAus said:

Hey @Contador 123 yes fordyce spots do occasionally pop and elicit a firm white pus usually.

Mostly they sit there and do nothing much. They do go through phases of being prominent then shrinking based on hormones, diet etc.

Ok, thank you. 

My diet has been very bad lately, I have been suffering from extreme stress due to this so maybe a contributor. 

I'm of the opinion that I would certainly know if it was herpes then would I?

[WilsoInAus]

19 minutes ago, Contador 123 said:

Ok, thank you. 

My diet has been very bad lately, I have been suffering from extreme stress due to this so maybe a contributor. 

I'm of the opinion that I would certainly know if it was herpes then would I?

You would, the little sores are a nuisance, they scab a bit and crack when you eat a burger etc.But they aren't static and are gone in a week if you nurse them along a little.

[Contador 123]

@WilsoInAus

Really appreciate your feedback, as I said they have been there for around 10 weeks and haven't got scabby or cracked etc.  

Perhaps another visit to the GP to rule anything else out. 

Could just be an extreme stress reaction as I have been in a really low place lately, but I'm no doctor. 

Thanks again, fingers crossed they are the fordyce spots and not something sinister. 

[blurneworder]

3 hours ago, Contador 123 said:

I have a lot of dots across my upper lip where it meets the bottom one, they have been there for around 8 to 10 weeks now. 

Sometimes they are smooth and sometimes I can feel them with my tongue. 

They haven't got bigger or changed in appearance, not sore at all or tingling, one did get really white and a small amount of white fluid came out then it went red for about 2 hours and disappeared. 

I have been fully tested for STIs but HSV1 was positive. 

The spots are a little bigger than a pin are more visible if I pull my lip tight and also I have some inside my mouth on the cheeks along my tooth line and some in the corner of my lips. My tongue tip is quite sore or numb, I can't decide which it is. 

I know I tested for HSV1 but these do not display the typical behaviour, someone mentioned fordyce spots and my GP was not much help. 

Can anyone put some light on this for me. 

I have the same that happened to my lip preceded by burning and tingling.

ive talked to others on this board who have these same spots on their lips and have HSV.

I personally think they are linked to HSV

Fordyce spots were guessed at by many on these forums and by Dermatologists, but nobody can explain why mine burn and how my then-girlfriend also developed them

Edited August 26, 2019 by blurneworder

[WilsoInAus]

1 hour ago, blurneworder said:

I have the same that happened to my lip preceded by burning and tingling.

ive talked to others on this board who have these same spots on their lips and have HSV.

I personally think they are linked to HSV

Fordyce spots were guessed at by many on these forums and by Dermatologists, but nobody can explain why mine burn and how my then-girlfriend also developed them

Cut the fucking bullshit.

You know full well and have been told multiple times that fordyce spots have sweet FA to do with herpes.

We are not here to indulge your fantasies regarding herpes. You continue to damage people’s journeys in truth and knowledge. Yet take no accountability.

Please sideline yourself until the fantasy subsides.

[blurneworder]

53 minutes ago, WilsoInAus said:

Cut the fucking bullshit.

You know full well and have been told multiple times that fordyce spots have sweet FA to do with herpes.

We are not here to indulge your fantasies regarding herpes. You continue to damage people’s journeys in truth and knowledge. Yet take no accountability.

Please sideline yourself until the fantasy subsides.

Please contain your anger. Can you please offer some insight rather than rage?

im sorry you don’t agree with my opinion, but please be civil 

Edited August 26, 2019 by blurneworder

[WilsoInAus]

28 minutes ago, blurneworder said:

Please contain your anger. Can you please offer some insight rather than rage?

im sorry you don’t agree with my opinion, but please be civil 

No, this is unacceptable. You have been warned about your lack of respect for others yet you do nothing.

Suggesting herpes is related to fordyce spots is not an opinion, it’s scientific misinformation, a mis truth. Despite being told this, you keep attempting to spread fear and misinformation.

Stop it, you need to resist the urge.

[blurneworder]

2 hours ago, WilsoInAus said:

No, this is unacceptable. You have been warned about your lack of respect for others yet you do nothing.

Suggesting herpes is related to fordyce spots is not an opinion, it’s scientific misinformation, a mis truth. Despite being told this, you keep attempting to spread fear and misinformation.

Stop it, you need to resist the urge.

I know you don’t enjoy personal anecdotes, and that’s okay. I’ve found others who also sprouted white bumps on their lips after acquiring herpes. 

I understand that it’s hard for you to acknowledge if you’ve never spoken to others with the same issue.

Others read my posts and message me to offer their stories. 

Edited August 26, 2019 by blurneworder

[WilsoInAus]

41 minutes ago, blurneworder said:

I know you don’t enjoy personal anecdotes, and that’s okay. I’ve found others who also sprouted white bumps on their lips after acquiring herpes. 

I understand that it’s hard for you to acknowledge if you’ve never spoken to others with the same issue.

Others read my posts and message me to offer their stories. 

Yes and it is our role to give them correct information based on scientific research and experience of the populace.

You have a great experience to share. You can share that you’ve experienced many, many symptoms such as fordyce spots and due to valuable advice from people on this website, you have come to the appreciation that none of the symptoms are related to herpes. Noe that’s gold, that’s support.

You need to go beyond what you think and encourage others as to what they ought to think.

Instead, you choose to spread fear and misinformation as a form of self validation. That needs to stop as it has caused significant damage to people.

You can do this, it can be part of your therapy to overcome depression and engage with society again.

LIFT. HEAVE, you can do it. Approach your next post by putting another person’s needs above your own.

[blurneworder]

That’s okay if you don’t believe me. I have plenty of people PMing me and saying they are experiencing the same or similar problems.

I appreciate you trying to make me believe it’s something else, but I don’t think you are correct .

Edited August 27, 2019 by blurneworder

[WilsoInAus]

7 minutes ago, blurneworder said:

That’s okay if you don’t believe me. I have plenty of people PMing me and saying they are experiencing the same or similar problems.

I appreciate you trying to make me believe it’s something else, but I don’t think you are correct .

So what? That doesn’t mean anything mentioned is related to herpes.

This has nothing to do with what you think is correct or incorrect. 

It is about what the OP ought to think, free of any bias as to what a person ‘believes’.

This needs to be done on the basis of compassion, science and probability. Not fear, misinformation, untruths and guesses.

The damage you have caused other people is now almost immeasurable. I deal with PMs from multiple people complaining that their disbelief over negative results was instigated by the fake and nonsense posts, particularly yours.

Something you refuse to acknowledge. Just how much of a price do people on this website have to pay to fuel your fantasy?

[Muscha]

17 hours ago, blurneworder said:

That’s okay if you don’t believe me. I have plenty of people PMing me and saying they are experiencing the same or similar problems.

I appreciate you trying to make me believe it’s something else, but I don’t think you are correct .

And you PM'd me telling me you may not have hsv.

@Contador 123 I have to agree with Wilso.  It sounds like fordyce spots.