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    • alphaCero
      Well, that's unusual, but not impossible. I've had HSV1 since childhood, and my IgG results will vary based on whether I'm taking anti-virals, but always have come out positive. I've known someone though who definitely had a cold sore, but never tested positive, so it's rare, but happens. It's possible he just carries a low count and transmitted to you via saliva but without direct oral sex, or that he doesn't have it and you had been a carrier for a long time and randomly had an outbreak right after having sex (unlikely), or some other random scenario. There's a reason why such a large part of the population is HSV1 positive - there are a lot of ways to get it, it's often asymptomatic, and most adults already have it. It's frustrating that we just don't have the resources to look deeply into these questions today. It seems like he's been pretty open to getting tested and hopefully educating himself along the way - that's at least something.
    • alphaCero
      It is so easy to stress over all kinds of symptoms, but generally speaking I'd say to trust your GP. They have the training, and they were there, so it's reasonable to believe them regarding your oral symptoms. I'd follow their advice and try to take care of yourself to be comforted and heal. In terms of your concerns about having Ghsv, a type-specific test for you and your partner can at lest tell whether either of you have a type I or II infection *somewhere*. The symptoms for hsv can be pretty variable and sometimes so mild that you wouldn't even notice, which holds true for men and women. If you don't have it, you can be thankful! If you do, you can be thankful the symptoms are so mild the possibility never even occurred to you until now! Remember that even if you have a positive test result of some kind, it's not conclusive where/when/by whom you might have been exposed. Just use the information you get to make informed decisions going forward. You're not alone no matter what the outcome, and every outcome is manageable. Be well
    • WarriorKing
      normally for most people hsv is lips and genitals, not tongue. fear can make you afraid of every little thing that you did or did not ever notice before and now you have an excess of fear. tongue irritation can occur for many reasons, none of which i am qualified to discuss. i suggest not shaving genital areas, trim hairs, don't upset the skin.  
    • Just a human being
      A- typical symtoms are rarer. It is less usual I think for a pimple to scab like that. But I am no pimple expert. Some people say if there is pus it isn’t but I think things out of spectrum can crop up with herpes. The likelihood of picking up herpes with condom use is low. Most of the mucus membranes for men is on the shaft of the penis. If the condom is used correctly and it was used during oral sex it’s highly unlikely. It’s too late to swab from what I personally know. Also I do not think symtoms on the bottom is common for men. Women tend to present with symtoms around the anus. I don’t know about men. Your situation sits out in a whole lot of unlikely and less than typical so I think you should put your weight of probabilities in the very unlikely and just follow up in the case of rare circumstances without worrying or becoming hysterical. 
    • Megneedshelp1
      So this is going to be a long one but please stick it out. I’ll be extremely grateful. So after going to my doctors for a general check up due to me having Molluscum (had during childhood, but reappeared when I was 19) he mentioned having a routine STD check. I thought nothing of it and accepted. Everything came back negative, syphillis, chlamydia, ghonnerea and HIV.  What I didn’t realise is that herpes wasn’t a routine test and I started looking online about what herpes involved. I was scared and uncertain about my status now beings as the more I read. The more symptoms I believe I’ve had. starting in 2018 I had developed iritis which apparently can be a result of H. This however was during a stressful period of my life.  Since my first sexual partner my posterior fourchette has always been weak and I have little tears (not serious) ever since. They heal within a day.  However. Whilst itchiness, blisters, soreness is the typical symptoms for when people have it (and I have never had) I have noticed that I have had a very very thin, not deep, none sore (unless touched) cut on my inner labia a few weeks ago.  Then three days ago I had a tiny tiny cut which resembled more of very thin tear I guess it closer to a definition, since the one on my labia was more of a cut ( but I would also say like a scratch) on the upper part of my genitals just where the pubic area ended. It was quite sore when touched but didn’t bother me otherwise. I have had this cut before however typically when my pubic hair is growing back. In around about the same area which goes away within 2-3 days maximum. Does this seem like genital herpes? further more, I now have concerns about my mouth too. This is the first time this has ever happened to me. And had occurred two days after I started panicking about this, so I would say I was extremely stressed. My tongue turned Pale and patchy with red indents on my tongue. Ulcers (eventhough they didn’t hurt) appeared on the back of the sides of my tongue. The sores then travelled all along the sides of my tongue to the tip of my tongue. (A few yellow patches still being on the back of either side of my tongue) Being in one place, then moving to another. I must say that I had smaller sores and then I had food poisoning which resulted in vomiting which then made the sores triple in amount. Also there are light yellow patches/dots on the back of my throat.  I have been using salt water rinses and bonjella on the sores. It’s important to note that the sores don’t hurt or irritate me UNLESS I use the bonjela which causes them to burn a little.  I have never had anything like this in my mouth before and this has lasted two weeks,  And I guess I’m just extremely upset because I’ve only had two sexual partners. And have been with my current partner for two years. So for all of this to suddenly occur has created so much stress for me. I’ve already told him that there is a possibility since I wanted to be open from the very beginning, but since the COVID scares, anywhere I could get the cuts on my genital swabbed is closed and it’s already gone now. So I’m hoping I could eat some advice here ..  when seeing my GP about my mouth she said it didnt look like herpes and was quite certain. She said it just looked like ulcers and said it could be down to the immense stress I’ve put myself under due to panicking. So... Is this thrush/stress/herpes???  Here are the links to the Reddit page I made showing the problems with my mouth as I unfortunately have no pictures of my genital cut. https://www.reddit.com/user/MegneedsHelp/comments/fql64p/is_this_herpes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/user/MegneedsHelp/comments/fql040/is_this_herpes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/user/MegneedsHelp/comments/fqkzlh/is_this_herpes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf   THANK YOU 
HSV2sucks

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On Feb 10, I slept with somebody new. I specifically asked him if he had been tested for HSV and HIV via blood test. He told me he had just been tested two months ago and everything was negative and he hadn’t slept with anybody in a year. He either lied to me about being tested or lied about his status. I believe he knew he had HSV2, was not taking antivirals, and didn’t care if he infected me. Now he is using it to make me feel like I HAVE to stay with him because we both have this. And he is minimizing it. 
 

I am in pain, depressed, having suicidal thoughts (don’t think I’d act on them), and feeling hopeless. I have nerve pain all over my genitals, my lower back, my butt, back of my legs. It’s a constant pain and burning. I’m also bleeding as if I’m on a light period! ITS AWFUL! I don’t understand why anybody minimizes this!!! INFORMED CONSENT IS SO IMPORTANT! I feel violated! I’m so angry

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Skiracer321
On 3/4/2020 at 10:45 PM, HSV2sucks said:

On Feb 10, I slept with somebody new. I specifically asked him if he had been tested for HSV and HIV via blood test. He told me he had just been tested two months ago and everything was negative and he hadn’t slept with anybody in a year. He either lied to me about being tested or lied about his status. I believe he knew he had HSV2, was not taking antivirals, and didn’t care if he infected me. Now he is using it to make me feel like I HAVE to stay with him because we both have this. And he is minimizing it. 
 

I am in pain, depressed, having suicidal thoughts (don’t think I’d act on them), and feeling hopeless. I have nerve pain all over my genitals, my lower back, my butt, back of my legs. It’s a constant pain and burning. I’m also bleeding as if I’m on a light period! ITS AWFUL! I don’t understand why anybody minimizes this!!! INFORMED CONSENT IS SO IMPORTANT! I feel violated! I’m so angry

It will get better soon and be back to normal.  Or new normal that is.  As for him if you can prove he concealed the disease by a test already documented before. My test lab said it was reported to the health dept.  Thats how you would hold someone accountable and be able to sue them.

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Scooby2112

Hsv doesn’t require health department reporting due to it not being a serious infection. 
 

Getting that information would be difficult anyway because it’s protected by law.  
 

I know it sucks.  I would focus on you for the moment.  You deserve to get yourself right and deal with him others at a later time.  

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RNY18

Sorry that you are suffering, especially due to the selfish, irresponsible and criminal actions of another.

Many here will attest to the same, myself included.

I may have mis-read you post but I have to ask the obvious question.

Have you been tested via IgG test ? Do you have external symptoms that have been swabbed ?

Not doubting you, just want you to be sure so that you can take some appropriate action going into the future.

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Babrb

Também foi diagnosticada a pouco tempo, e estou muito triste.

No meu caso, o rapaz tirou a camisinha e eu não percebi, só vim perceber depois, e pronto, a herpes tava na minha vida pra sempre.

Agora surgiu essa bolinha na minha boca, alguém pode me dizer se parece com herpes. Tô com medo.

É um queda atrás da outra.

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RNY18
Você pode fazer o teste? É a única maneira de saber. Você não pode confiar em um diagnóstico visual.

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Babrb

Vou tentar fazer, o ruim é que as clínicas estão fechadas, por conta do corona vírus.

O teste só faz com a feirinha né ?

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RNY18
Não sei ao certo o que você quer dizer, um teste específico do tipo IgG é um bom começo para determinar o que você faz ou não possui.

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meg2

I understand how you are feeling. The same thing similarly happened to me. I had unprotected sex and after i found out, i told him and he said he was clean. So either he really didn’t know or he knew and he just didn’t tell me. Clearly, he was not clean though. . Do not give up hope, it will get better. I hit my year mark this May and while I do still struggle with it emotionally, this forum def helps when you are feeling down. At the end of the day, i look at it as a blessing and a curse. A curse because it is unfortunately forever. However, a blessing because i see it as it will weed out the ones who are not strictly for you. Especially the ones that only just want to hook up and genuinely don’t care. It does not define us. And there are pieces of shit out there who know they have it and don’t say anything, which is completly disgusting. I can tell you i was told the first year is the hardest, and it is. I know it is hard right now but you will get through it ❤️

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Cas9
1 hour ago, meg2 said:

A curse because it is unfortunately forever.

Not likely. They're getting close. Are you familiar with Dr. Jerome's work?

If you're young, you have a solid chance of being cured (at least practically). There are also prophylactic vaccines in the pipeline that have a lot of potential. If they work, your partner can get protection, and you wont have to worry about passing the infection.

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Babrb
13 hours ago, meg2 said:

Eu entendo como você está se sentindo. O mesmo aconteceu comigo. Eu tive relações sexuais desprotegidas e depois que descobri, contei a ele e ele disse que estava limpo. Então, ele realmente não sabia ou sabia e simplesmente não me contou. Claramente, ele não estava limpo. . Não desista da esperança, vai melhorar. Eu atingi minha marca do ano em maio e, enquanto ainda luto emocionalmente, essa definição do fórum ajuda quando você está se sentindo mal. No final do dia, vejo isso como uma bênção e uma maldição. Uma maldição, porque infelizmente é para sempre. No entanto, uma bênção, porque eu a vejo, pois eliminará aqueles que não são estritamente para você. Especialmente aqueles que apenas querem se conectar e realmente não se importam. Não nos define. E há pedaços de merda por aí que sabem que têm e não dizem nada, o que é completamente nojento. Posso dizer que me disseram que o primeiro ano é o mais difícil, e é. Eu sei que é difícil agora, mas você vai passar por isso❤️

Obrigada amiga!

Não é fácil mesmo, estou muito triste.

Mas tentando seguir a vida, e preservando a minha família.

Não entendo como tem pessoas que fazem isso com as outras, não me imagino fazendo isso nem com o meu pior inimigo.

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Babrb
12 hours ago, Cas9 said:

Não é provável. Eles estão chegando perto. Você está familiarizado com o trabalho do Dr. Jerome?

Se você é jovem, tem uma boa chance de ser curado (pelo menos na prática). Também existem vacinas profiláticas no pipeline que têm muito potencial. Se eles funcionarem, seu parceiro poderá obter proteção e você não precisará se preocupar em passar a infecção.

Deus te ouça, amigo!

Que tudo der certo pra gente!

Sofremos demais com essa doença.

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Cas9
1 hour ago, Babrb said:

Deus te ouça, amigo!

Que tudo der certo pra gente!

Sofremos demais com essa doença.

I don't read Portuguese or Spanish

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Babrb
20 minutes ago, Cas9 said:

Eu não leio português ou espanhol

Hello, could you send me a link about the work of Dr. Jerome and about the vaccines in the pipeline

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Cas9
On 3/25/2020 at 2:24 PM, Babrb said:

Hello, could you send me a link about the work of Dr. Jerome and about the vaccines in the pipeline

You can start by watching these videos and reading the article about Dr. Friedman's work. There's one treatment for a cure (Dr. Jerome) and two separate prophylactic vaccines (Dr. Herold and Dr. Friedman). It gets rather science-y. I see that RNY18 sent you a link to a paper on Dr. Jerome's work also. You can reference the paper and/or the video I provided to understand Dr. Jerome's work. Enjoy.
Also, feel free to PM me with any questions and I'll try and answer them.

Potential herpes cure (Dr Keith Jerome)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn3idMX9x1c

Prophylactic vaccines
(Dr. Betsy Herold)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wRT219obLM
(Dr. Harvey Friedman)
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2217255-herpes-vaccine-to-be-tested-in-humans-after-best-result-yet-in-animals/

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Skiracer321
On 3/24/2020 at 8:09 AM, Scooby2112 said:

Hsv doesn’t require health department reporting due to it not being a serious infection. 
 

Getting that information would be difficult anyway because it’s protected by law.  
 

I know it sucks.  I would focus on you for the moment.  You deserve to get yourself right and deal with him others at a later time.  

My state does.

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confused 219

Can someone help me wrap around how to ask the guy if they gave it to you when your still together ..you knowing he did but not knowing if he knew or just didn't tell me...

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Skiracer321

Just ask him calmly.  Start out by playing dumb perhaps and judge his reaction.  If you go into accusing you wont get anywhere and permanently blow any hope at all for an answer.  

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alphaCero

@Cas9 - thank you for posting Dr. Jerome's video. I work in IT and with machine learning, so some of the cellular biology is lost on me, but the gist is pretty accessible.

The tools they are working with are much more advanced than I had realized, and Dr. Jerome points out some advantages we have in tackling HSV, which is that relatively few cells (hundreds of thousands, not billions) are infected, and they are very localized. This makes targeting those infection areas more manageable. I'm not sure how good existing IT models are for simulating human microbiology, but as those models improve, ML-based approaches to discovering effective, safe combinations of delivery mechanisms and gene editing payloads would seem very hopeful. It might take another 10 years, but it's nice to see new approaches showing promise where traditional approaches (vaccines) have struggled.

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