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    • alphaCero
      It is so easy to stress over all kinds of symptoms, but generally speaking I'd say to trust your GP. They have the training, and they were there, so it's reasonable to believe them regarding your oral symptoms. I'd follow their advice and try to take care of yourself to be comforted and heal. In terms of your concerns about having Ghsv, a type-specific test for you and your partner can at lest tell whether either of you have a type I or II infection *somewhere*. The symptoms for hsv can be pretty variable and sometimes so mild that you wouldn't even notice, which holds true for men and women. If you don't have it, you can be thankful! If you do, you can be thankful the symptoms are so mild the possibility never even occurred to you until now! Remember that even if you have a positive test result of some kind, it's not conclusive where/when/by whom you might have been exposed. Just use the information you get to make informed decisions going forward. You're not alone no matter what the outcome, and every outcome is manageable. Be well
    • WarriorKing
      normally for most people hsv is lips and genitals, not tongue. fear can make you afraid of every little thing that you did or did not ever notice before and now you have an excess of fear. tongue irritation can occur for many reasons, none of which i am qualified to discuss. i suggest not shaving genital areas, trim hairs, don't upset the skin.  
    • Just a human being
      A- typical symtoms are rarer. It is less usual I think for a pimple to scab like that. But I am no pimple expert. Some people say if there is pus it isn’t but I think things out of spectrum can crop up with herpes. The likelihood of picking up herpes with condom use is low. Most of the mucus membranes for men is on the shaft of the penis. If the condom is used correctly and it was used during oral sex it’s highly unlikely. It’s too late to swab from what I personally know. Also I do not think symtoms on the bottom is common for men. Women tend to present with symtoms around the anus. I don’t know about men. Your situation sits out in a whole lot of unlikely and less than typical so I think you should put your weight of probabilities in the very unlikely and just follow up in the case of rare circumstances without worrying or becoming hysterical. 
    • Megneedshelp1
      So this is going to be a long one but please stick it out. I’ll be extremely grateful. So after going to my doctors for a general check up due to me having Molluscum (had during childhood, but reappeared when I was 19) he mentioned having a routine STD check. I thought nothing of it and accepted. Everything came back negative, syphillis, chlamydia, ghonnerea and HIV.  What I didn’t realise is that herpes wasn’t a routine test and I started looking online about what herpes involved. I was scared and uncertain about my status now beings as the more I read. The more symptoms I believe I’ve had. starting in 2018 I had developed iritis which apparently can be a result of H. This however was during a stressful period of my life.  Since my first sexual partner my posterior fourchette has always been weak and I have little tears (not serious) ever since. They heal within a day.  However. Whilst itchiness, blisters, soreness is the typical symptoms for when people have it (and I have never had) I have noticed that I have had a very very thin, not deep, none sore (unless touched) cut on my inner labia a few weeks ago.  Then three days ago I had a tiny tiny cut which resembled more of very thin tear I guess it closer to a definition, since the one on my labia was more of a cut ( but I would also say like a scratch) on the upper part of my genitals just where the pubic area ended. It was quite sore when touched but didn’t bother me otherwise. I have had this cut before however typically when my pubic hair is growing back. In around about the same area which goes away within 2-3 days maximum. Does this seem like genital herpes? further more, I now have concerns about my mouth too. This is the first time this has ever happened to me. And had occurred two days after I started panicking about this, so I would say I was extremely stressed. My tongue turned Pale and patchy with red indents on my tongue. Ulcers (eventhough they didn’t hurt) appeared on the back of the sides of my tongue. The sores then travelled all along the sides of my tongue to the tip of my tongue. (A few yellow patches still being on the back of either side of my tongue) Being in one place, then moving to another. I must say that I had smaller sores and then I had food poisoning which resulted in vomiting which then made the sores triple in amount. Also there are light yellow patches/dots on the back of my throat.  I have been using salt water rinses and bonjella on the sores. It’s important to note that the sores don’t hurt or irritate me UNLESS I use the bonjela which causes them to burn a little.  I have never had anything like this in my mouth before and this has lasted two weeks,  And I guess I’m just extremely upset because I’ve only had two sexual partners. And have been with my current partner for two years. So for all of this to suddenly occur has created so much stress for me. I’ve already told him that there is a possibility since I wanted to be open from the very beginning, but since the COVID scares, anywhere I could get the cuts on my genital swabbed is closed and it’s already gone now. So I’m hoping I could eat some advice here ..  when seeing my GP about my mouth she said it didnt look like herpes and was quite certain. She said it just looked like ulcers and said it could be down to the immense stress I’ve put myself under due to panicking. So... Is this thrush/stress/herpes???  Here are the links to the Reddit page I made showing the problems with my mouth as I unfortunately have no pictures of my genital cut. https://www.reddit.com/user/MegneedsHelp/comments/fql64p/is_this_herpes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/user/MegneedsHelp/comments/fql040/is_this_herpes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/user/MegneedsHelp/comments/fqkzlh/is_this_herpes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf   THANK YOU 
    • WarriorKing
      If they posted "cases" in the USA of HSV it would be over 200 million. they don't. most people do not know they carry. And yes, complications from HSV rarely lead to very serious stuff and death. For covid-19, as of today they are stating 2,211 deaths in USA. Hopefully the end point is no worse than the seasonal flu. For the flu in USA CDC expects for Oct 2019 to March 2020 38,000,000 – 54,000,000 flu illnesses   400,000 – 730,000 flu hospitalizations   24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths And these numbers happen nearly every year    
MattyIce

What are the chances that I was exposed?

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MattyIce

Hello everyone. I just had some general questions regarding what my risk of exposure was based on recent events. Long story short, I’ve been dating a woman for a few months now, and we just had sex for the first time three weeks ago. She tests herself every six months for STDs, and she just told me on Monday that she tested positive for herpes from the IgG test. When we had sex, it was unprotected, and we had sex about four different times throughout the night, including oral sex as well. And I know this is irresponsible on my part, but we just had sex again last night, although it was pretty brief due to the stress she’s been feeling from her test results. We both had a little too much to drink and weren’t being responsible in the moment. I’m just wondering what my risk of exposure to the virus would have been in these instances. From what we can tell, she hasn’t had any sores or symptoms, granted I understand that the virus can be transmitted through asymptomatic viral shedding. If this information helps at all, she believes that most likely she was exposed last July, but was possibly exposed in October. She’s also not on any antivirals, as she wasn’t aware she had it. So yeah, I’m just trying to figure out how likely it would be that I’ve been exposed to it. Like, is it pretty much a given that I have it now since we had unprotected sex a few times? Or is it still hard to get if there are no sores when you have sex? I really care about this woman, so I know this is going to be the reality of our relationship going forward regardless. I just want to prevent myself from getting it as best I can. Any help or insight is greatly appreciated!

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WilsoInAus

Hey @MattyIce and welcome to the website.

There is no a lot of information about her actual infection to provide good guidance to you. The majority of people have an oral HSV-1 infection with many of these being infected at a young age.

You may be a carrier already of HSV-1 orally, even if you do not remember ever having cold sores.

Hence it is best to know more about what types (HSV-1 and/or HSV-2) does she have and whether you have been tested for HSV or have reason to suspect you have oral HSV-1?

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MattyIce
24 minutes ago, WilsoInAus said:

Hey @MattyIce and welcome to the website.

There is no a lot of information about her actual infection to provide good guidance to you. The majority of people have an oral HSV-1 infection with many of these being infected at a young age.

You may be a carrier already of HSV-1 orally, even if you do not remember ever having cold sores.

Hence it is best to know more about what types (HSV-1 and/or HSV-2) does she have and whether you have been tested for HSV or have reason to suspect you have oral HSV-1?

Thank you! And that makes sense. I’ll see if I can get more information from her about the results. What I can tell you though, is that when she thought she was potentially exposed in July, she went and got the IgG test and everything came back negative, most likely because only four weeks had passed. It wasn’t until last week where her results came back positive. So I don’t think she already had HSV-1 based on that. Also, I tested for all STD’s about a year and a half ago before I got into a relationship, and my IgG test came back negative for both HSV-1 and HSV-2. So I don’t believe that I’ve ever had oral herpes either. I faintly remember possibly having a cold sore on my lips when I was a kid, but I’m 28 now, so it’s hard to remember so far back. Is there any chance the test I did could’ve come back negative for HSV-1 even if I had it many years ago?

And again, I will update you with any other information that I get from her when I can. I very much appreciate your help!

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Herpesser

Hello,

In my experiences, she won’t pass it to you unless there is no lesions or any redness on the skin! I think it is very low chance. 

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WilsoInAus
5 minutes ago, MattyIce said:

Thank you! And that makes sense. I’ll see if I can get more information from her about the results. What I can tell you though, is that when she thought she was potentially exposed in July, she went and got the IgG test and everything came back negative, most likely because only four weeks had passed. It wasn’t until last week where her results came back positive. So I don’t think she already had HSV-1 based on that. Also, I tested for all STD’s about a year and a half ago before I got into a relationship, and my IgG test came back negative for both HSV-1 and HSV-2. So I don’t believe that I’ve ever had oral herpes either. I faintly remember possibly having a cold sore on my lips when I was a kid, but I’m 28 now, so it’s hard to remember so far back. Is there any chance the test I did could’ve come back negative for HSV-1 even if I had it many years ago?

And again, I will update you with any other information that I get from her when I can. I very much appreciate your help!

I do encourage you to remain curious here. I think you are suggesting that your partner has never had a genital symptom aligned to herpes? If so then the chances of there being issues such as long term infections or false positives playing a role here represents a modest chance.

Long term infections of oral HSV-1 do have an elevated risk of being missed by the IgG test. Hence either of you may have a childhood infection of HSV-1 that you test intermittently positive for if at all. Focusing on her, if she has suddenly had a positive HSV-1 infection with no discernible symptoms (meaning an outbreak of lesions) then this would be quite consistent with a childhood infection orally. 

I would check to make sure the test administered at the 4 week mark was a type specific HSV IgG test. Plenty of wrong tests out there.

For the latest test, then you do need the values if it was an ELISA based test to identify the possibility of a low positive potentially being false. False positives happen somewhat often.

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MattyIce
10 hours ago, Herpesser said:

Hello,

In my experiences, she won’t pass it to you unless there is no lesions or any redness on the skin! I think it is very low chance. 

Is this true? I’ve always heard that it can be passed on regardless of if the person is experiencing symptoms or not.

10 hours ago, WilsoInAus said:

I do encourage you to remain curious here. I think you are suggesting that your partner has never had a genital symptom aligned to herpes? If so then the chances of there being issues such as long term infections or false positives playing a role here represents a modest chance.

Long term infections of oral HSV-1 do have an elevated risk of being missed by the IgG test. Hence either of you may have a childhood infection of HSV-1 that you test intermittently positive for if at all. Focusing on her, if she has suddenly had a positive HSV-1 infection with no discernible symptoms (meaning an outbreak of lesions) then this would be quite consistent with a childhood infection orally. 

I would check to make sure the test administered at the 4 week mark was a type specific HSV IgG test. Plenty of wrong tests out there.

For the latest test, then you do need the values if it was an ELISA based test to identify the possibility of a low positive potentially being false. False positives happen somewhat often.

So I’ve got more information for you; she said that she tested positive for HSV-2. Is there still a chance that this result is a false positive? And assuming she is actually HSV-2 positive, based on what I mentioned earlier, do you think there’s a good chance that I could’ve gotten the virus from her when we had sex? I guess I’m wondering what my risk of exposure was if she didn’t have any sores or anything when we had sex.

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Herpesser
21 minutes ago, MattyIce said:

Is this true? I’ve always heard that it can be passed on regardless of if the person is experiencing symptoms or not.

So I’ve got more information for you; she said that she tested positive for HSV-2. Is there still a chance that this result is a false positive? And assuming she is actually HSV-2 positive, based on what I mentioned earlier, do you think there’s a good chance that I could’ve gotten the virus from her when we had sex? I guess I’m wondering what my risk of exposure was if she didn’t have any sores or anything when we had sex.

According to doctors, there is very very little chance of shedding the virus when there is no symptomps. However, I believe that you can’t shed this virus while there is no symptoms. I believe that doctors or medical books try to make a herpes person have limited sex life because they don’t want to have a lot of herpes infected persons. Because some people don’t realize anyting when they have symptomps. 

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RNY18

"According to doctors, there is very very little chance of shedding the virus when there is no symptomps (sic ). However, I believe that you can’t shed this virus while there is(sic) no symptoms."

NOT true

Whatever the percentage may be, it is is still possible to become infected by someone who is asymptomatic.

If you you think you may have been infected, get tested even if you don't have symptoms.

 The current recommendation 4-6 weeks after exposure.

Get tested again at an appropriate interval to confirm. If you want to be sure the best available current method is through a Western Blot Test.

If your partner's numbers are in the "inconclusive" range, have her get tested again.

https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/screening.htm

https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-does-a-positive-herpes-igg-test-mean-3132937

You can get an HSV-2 infection orally .

There is a lot of information available for you you to sort through. 

Keep in mind , there are no infectious disease specialists here. 

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MattyIce
6 hours ago, RNY18 said:

"According to doctors, there is very very little chance of shedding the virus when there is no symptomps (sic ). However, I believe that you can’t shed this virus while there is(sic) no symptoms."

NOT true

Whatever the percentage may be, it is is still possible to become infected by someone who is asymptomatic.

If you you think you may have been infected, get tested even if you don't have symptoms.

 The current recommendation 4-6 weeks after exposure.

Get tested again at an appropriate interval to confirm. If you want to be sure the best available current method is through a Western Blot Test.

If your partner's numbers are in the "inconclusive" range, have her get tested again.

https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/screening.htm

https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-does-a-positive-herpes-igg-test-mean-3132937

You can get an HSV-2 infection orally .

There is a lot of information available for you you to sort through. 

Keep in mind , there are no infectious disease specialists here. 

I understand there aren’t any specialists here. I’m more so just looking for opinions based on others experiences. She said her results for HSV-2 came back positive, so I would assume that means they’re conclusive results, correct?

And I’m really just wondering, assuming she is actually positive, based on the information I provided in my first post, what the chances are that I’ve now been exposed to it. Is there a percentage on the rate of transmission from women to men when the woman is infected and she doesn’t have any symptoms? I’m just wondering if it’s more than likely that I have it now, or if there’s still a good chance that I didn’t catch it. And I know no one can actually say for certain.

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Cas9
3 hours ago, Herpesser said:

Did you ever shed herpes while you have no symptoms? I am talking about my experiences.

Virtually everyone who has herpes, sheds.  Viral shedding can be asymptomatic (no sores or nerve pain) or symptomatic (sores, and possibly nerve pain).

In both cases, the virus will be present on the skin and thus has the potential to be transmitted to another individual. People who are asymptomatic probably shed less frequently and shed less virus, but they are still contagious. Asymptomatic shedding is one of the reasons for the spread of the virus since those who are asymptomatic don't know they carry the virus and thus do not take any precautions regarding sexual activity.

 

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MattyIce

So I’ve received more information from her. She gave me the values of her test result, and her number is 13.30, which says is above high normal...she took this test a week ago, which is labeled as HSV-2 IgG, type specific. So, based on her number being so high, would that mean she is more contagious? I don’t understand how the value system works. Now I’m not feeling great because now I’m thinking I probably have it...

For reference, this test was taken a week ago. We had sex initially on March 5th, and again briefly this past Tuesday, March 24th. I don’t know if her value being higher than normal means she’s more contagious right now, but I’m wondering if since we’ve had sex around this time if it makes it any more or less likely that I would’ve gotten it.

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Scooby2112
5 hours ago, MattyIce said:

So I’ve received more information from her. She gave me the values of her test result, and her number is 13.30, which says is above high normal...she took this test a week ago, which is labeled as HSV-2 IgG, type specific. So, based on her number being so high, would that mean she is more contagious? I don’t understand how the value system works. Now I’m not feeling great because now I’m thinking I probably have it...

For reference, this test was taken a week ago. We had sex initially on March 5th, and again briefly this past Tuesday, March 24th. I don’t know if her value being higher than normal means she’s more contagious right now, but I’m wondering if since we’ve had sex around this time if it makes it any more or less likely that I would’ve gotten it.

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Values do not translate to more contagious.  These are antibodies.  These stick around a long time after they are created.  They help the body fight off the virus the next time it shows itself.  
 

it does mean she is a carrier and that any sex comes with risk.  Female to male transmission is less.  Especially with a condom and if she takes antivirals.  
 

she needs to understand the prodrome symptoms and abstain if Any symptoms are present. 
 

  

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MattyIce
2 hours ago, Scooby2112 said:

Values do not translate to more contagious.  These are antibodies.  These stick around a long time after they are created.  They help the body fight off the virus the next time it shows itself.  
 

it does mean she is a carrier and that any sex comes with risk.  Female to male transmission is less.  Especially with a condom and if she takes antivirals.  
 

she needs to understand the prodrome symptoms and abstain if Any symptoms are present. 
 

  

Thanks for the reply! That’s good to know that higher values don’t mean more contagious. And when we had sex, it was unprotected and she wasn’t on antivirals. She did mention a few days before the last time that we had sex that she was having bad nerve pain...but that was three days prior to us having sex. How long are you supposed to abstain from sex when you experience any prodrome symptoms? Her symptoms didn’t result in an outbreak of sores, so I don’t know if that helps.

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