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Ok so a change to my initial post....

had one committed relationship - oral and contact down there BUT no intercourse.    This was 1.5 years ago!! No  contact since 

Vulvar skin is really red / rash — appears to be irritated by discharge  and felt like a contact dermatitis as it burns touching fabric but no lesions or sores

During my mid cycle (when I was supposed to ovulate).  Stinging pain in vulvar skin.   Most intense itching and stinging sensation in BOTH vagina and rectum accompanied with a lot of watery bubbled frothy milky clear discharge (both just pouring out of both vagina and anus).    

Rectum constantly itches and feels scratchy  — looks like hemmorhoids 

itching on labia was intense.   Went to wipe with a Kleenex and saw blood. On a self exam a paper like cut was visible

Frequent urination and  burning in urethra prior to urinating but no pain when peeing 

lymph nodes swollen in armpit and sensation in groin lymph.   Numbness in legs 

no sores — just the paper cut looking lesion that occurred — possible scratch. 

Been to the doctor 3 times.   3 pelvic exams.  Two STD panels — everything NEGATIVE and clear (not even a yeast infection).   I finally begged for a HSV blood test (1 week after this intense situation )  it came back NEGATIVE for HSV 1+2.  BUT my WBC and Neutrophil count was elevated on blood test #2 (it doubled over that month)

My GP now thinks I’m crazy.   Won’t listen to me and is sending me for an X-ray because she thinks I have a back injury causing “nerve sensations” and is ignoring the rash as I “look fine”  

while I agree it’s possible nerve issue there’s clearly an underlying GYN issue

what are the chances of false negative blood work 1.5 yrs after sexual contact ???  I have no lesions to swab as that cut was healed prior to seeing my doctor — no scab

Has anybody encountered anything similar that can point me in the right direction for a diagnosis of any kind that will bring me some relief as I’m miserable ?? 

Fluconazole and Flagyl didn’t help   Tried lysine supplements and no help either 

Thank you 


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Sounds like me this past summer.  Step throat started my disaster then the antibiotic trashed my liver which in turn screwed up my stomach and intestines.  I had upper endoscopy to look at that have an ulcer and gastritis also had colonoscopy with biopsy normal.they have me eating activia yogurt 2 times a day and I put myself on a gluten free diet and I am on a 6 month regimen of fluconazole for a resistant yeast infection and I feel so much better.  Also get your stress under control!!! That is a huge factor. I also have been going through the autoimmune testing but they haven't quite figured it out yet. Soak in the tub for relief make sure everything is very dry sleep without underwear and see how it goes. It doesn't sound like herpes.  At this point with covid it is so hard to get healthcare.  If it get severe I would go to an urgent care or emergency room and make them figure it out. Do it during a bout of it and maybe you will get some answers.  I feel like a new person and have been able to stop the medication for my intestinal issues.  I wish you the best of luck. I hope this helps!

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