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BioNTech lines up 5 infectious disease vaccine trials for 2023 (Herpes included!)

Jeremy Spokein

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Here comes the silver lining of the pandemic:


The German-based biotech has a list of first-in-human trials for mRNA vaccines ready to go in the coming months, including BNT163 for herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV-2). A vaccine for shingles is also expected this year, in collaboration with long-term partner Pfizer, and is likely to be followed by a malaria vaccine dubbed BNT165, which will enter trial participants’ arms either this year or in early 2023.


Those ambitious plans will increase the competition between BioNTech and Moderna, which unveiled its own mRNA vaccine candidates for HSV-2 and shingles this year.



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These are the same people who made the clot shot.  I would rather just deal with symptoms than take any big pharma product rubbish

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I’ll still be watching with interest. I have received 4 x vaccine shots, 2 x AZ and 2 x Pfizer. No side effects to speak of, aside from shot 3 (first Pfizer) which saw enlarged lymph nodes under my left arm for a couple of days. Nothing to worry about: just means my immune system is working as it should.

After that, no problem. Same for my family & friends: elderly mother knocked flat after second Pfizer, but back on her feet a day later. Aside from that, nothing to speak of.  I did catch Covid about 2 weeks after shot 4, but didn’t even know I had it (barely any symptoms to speak of). So that tells me it seems to be pretty good at mitigating symptoms. 

So on the basis of my own, real world experience, I wouldn’t be concerned taking an mRNA treatment, assuming trials are extensive and properly conducted.


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Thanks @Jeremy SpokeinI was expecting this after learning about the history of the COVID vax. This technology has been around since the 90s and almost lost because it kept getting rejected by the body. They just discovered the modification to make so it is not rejected. This is a game changer for people like us looking for cures and vaccinations for viruses that are drastically affecting people's lives. As someone who is too old to have been vaccinated for HPV16, I am really excited to see that they are on that also. Thanks again for the great news 😀 

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      Hi "Jeremy"..... I agree, the topic of your HSV status does not need to be something you disclose too soon in a developing relationship..... get to know each other first....see how it's going and as it progresses, then the HSV issue will naturally need to be revealed.... it's my personal opinion though that before there is any sexual encounter you ought to disclose your HSV status.... I know some will disagree with me on this but, I think it is morally wrong not to disclose first.  This can be a make/break situation for most people but, again, I feel it is simply wrong not to give the other person the whole story since your decision not to disclose could put their health at risk.... that is simply not an option in my opinion.  Looking back to my "pre-HSV" life I most certainly would want my partner to disclose their HSV+ status before intimacy so that I could make my decision as to whether I want to take that risk or not.... 
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      Hey @Lcj987 and welcome to the website. You can be sure that isn't HSV-2, looks nothing like it. It is much more likely to be folliculitis or inflamed fordyce spots.
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      Hey @JackThrowAway herpes causes an outbreak where it enters the body first and maybe a progressive spread. If it doesn't cause an outbreak at the entry site then it won't cause one elsewhere, it also won't 'jump' upon infection - it would be more likely that the lesions are continuous from the penis to the anus. Nevertheless, testing trumps symptoms or any interpretation of symptoms. The correct conclusive result arises when: you have a positive swab; or An IgG HSV-2 level over 3.5 (Herpeselect test).
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