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That is a good site... I like this:

What other 'herpes' sites don't tell you

---Most people have herpes simplex - 70% have facial herpes (cold sores) and 10% have genital herpes in the UK. These figures are even higher in other countries including the USA and the developing world.

---Three quarters don't know they have it: 1 in 4 will have no symptoms; 2 in 4 will have only mild symptoms and are unlikely to be diagnosed; 1 in 4 will have more noticeable symptoms and will be diagnosed.

---Herpes simplex is seldom of any medical importance - some people are quite ill when they catch it but so are some people who catch flu.

---It is not incurable - your immune system cures it very well and stops recurrences for most people.

---There are good treatment methods for the unlucky few - medication or herbal treatments and improved lifestyle management.

---It's not the only infection that stays with us once we catch it - chickenpox and glandular fever also hide in the body but no one makes a fuss about them.

Other web sites may exaggerate the worst cases and seek to make you believe herpes is a big deal. Don't be fooled. It's as big a deal as you want to make it. You don't have to worry about it. Join the HVA if you are worried and we'll help you not to be.

Very no-nonsense, no-drama straightforward... I like that...

There are a few things in their q&a section that gave me pause..

11 - Can I spread the infection around my body?

You do not spread the virus to other parts of your own body after the first episode. Even in new cases the infection is usually limited to one part of the body.

If this is accurate, I think its pretty cool.... If this is accurate, then 1, I didn't get it from myself (from picking a cold-sore) like I thought I did, and 2... I don't have to worry about, for example, touching my eye by accident after I touched an outbreak... (not that I would anyway, but)

From reading this, it would seem to say that if a person HAD genital herpes... and had an outbreak, and RUBBED their finger in the outbreak, and then rubbed their finger on their lip TRYING to give yourself ORAL hsv, YOU COULD NOT DO IT?

I'm suprised by this... BUT if its true.... That's pretty damn cool!

12 - Will I reinfect my partner?

If you and your partner have the same virus you will not reinfect each other - even on a different part of the body. So, if you have caught it genitally from your partner?s facial cold sores, he or she will not catch the virus back on the genitals. There is more about transmission in our "Transmission" leaflet ? available to members ? see subscription form


OK... so just like the previous point... IF I have hsv1 genitally.... If I have sex with a girl who has had a cold-sore before, I could NOT give her HSV genitally?

THAT runs contrary to what I've thought to be true... BUT if it is true... Then I think thats REALLY COOL!!!!!!!!!

Because that means if I marry a girl who has had a cold sore, I could NOT give her HSV by having sex with her??? (assuming I have hsv1 genitally like I THINK I do)???

That's awesome IF its true...


If HAVING a type of hsv in a certain part of your body PREVENTS you from getting that same type in another part of your body... THEN IS IT VALID to think that if someone with hsv genitally married someone... and their partner did NOT have any type of hsv... And the non-hsv partner didn't mind the occasional cold sore BUT were worried about getting it genitally (because of the discomfort, OR the social stigma)

THEN, could you just INTENTIONALLY give your partner the type of HSV you have orally, and in EFFECT protect her from EVER getting it gentially from you??????????

I like that site... But honestly... for me, it has raised more questions then it answered... But if I KNEW it was all true (what they say in their q&a section... I think HSV is EVEN easier to live with then I thought it was before (and I already thought it was easy)

How can we verify that site is accurate? (I hope it is)

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Those two transmission points gave me pause as well - I'll stick with my own thoughts on that one - I'd hate to find out the hard way that there was a .005% chance so they didn't report it, and I gave it/spread it. I have it in two locations - I'm convinced I spread it "by logical hand placement while looking" at the original sore.. if that makes sense.

At for purposely infecting your partner at chosen locations....interesting thought Pilot.... but I think I'd rather not experiment with that one.

All in all I agree - great site.

Pilot - you'll have so much time on your hands - what will you write about if people just go to that site? :wink:

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At for purposely infecting your partner at chosen locations....interesting thought Pilot.... but I think I'd rather not experiment with that one.

Yeah... I am not going to go changing anything I do...

But it does make me curious how they verified that statement. They MUST have in order to put it on their site like that... Looks like a very reputable organization???

Pilot - you'll have so much time on your hands - what will you write about if people just go to that site?


Seriously though...

The emotional stuff.... That's more easy to talk about...

It seems like there is so much conflicting scientific stuff... what will/what won't... and there are no absolutes... But the emotional stuff is easier to give advice on.... On the scientific side, I can't do the research... But on the emotional side, I can, and have... I'm more 'sure' about the advice I give there...

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